[Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
James Page
jmsp.1983 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 3 16:16:11 UTC 2015
Hmmm. After reading on the Intel forum, it looks like it's still 'safe' -
https://communities.intel.com/message/122034
I'm just concerned that the temp is running higher than it usually does
(i.e., the laptop itself is warmer than it has been in the past).
It seems that sticking i7s in laptops isn't the most temperate application
for them.
Best wishes,
James
On 3 July 2015 at 16:18, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I will be in a field teaching some Scouts how not to disgrace themselves
> when they go to Japan next month.
>
> My number one tip for Japan... Learn this kanji: 大 it means BIG, that
> way no matter how complicated and inscrutable the toilet interface gets you
> will always know how to do a BIG flush rather than get a hot jet wash of
> your front and back parts, with no clues how to stop it or activate the
> dryer afterwards...
>
>
> I'd like to point out that I've done this whole convo without mentioning
> my PC is water cooled... oh damn...
>
> Have a good meeting guys, pics of James' open laptop surgery please!
>
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> > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 16:00:39 +0100
> > From: olly at ollyclark.org
> > To: lespounder at gmail.com
> > CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
> >
> > With your AirCon on right!!! Seriously just been doing abit of Forum
> > trawling and it appears there's quite a spread of running temps, the
> > advice seems to be, don't be overly concerned unless it exceeds 90
> > Degrees, then put something thick between it and your groin ;-)
> >
> > Olly
> >
> > On 03/07/15 15:54, Les Pounder wrote:
> > > Core i5 driving two screens and watching iplayer while working
> > >
> > > 64c
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > Just checked my CPU temps, my cores are running at 59 and 60
> > > degrees C and I'm running in power saving as I have a low battery,
> > > so it may not be that out of the ordinary!!
> > >
> > > Olly
> > >
> > >
> > > On 03/07/15 15:43, Arthur Garlick wrote:
> > >
> > > I recall that these processing state % are not necessarily
> > > linked to the processor frequency and voltage in a linear
> > > fashion (pretty sure they aren't in fact and the processors
> > > step down in voltage and freq in steps, so it's a case of
> > > knowing what that processor does).
> > > 80% might not have done anything at all to the processor
> > > freq and voltage. Maybe there was a small change made going
> > > to 99% from 100% and then nothing until you drop a lot more.
> > > It might be that for that processor the step down doesn't
> > > happen until 79% and the next step down at 50% etc.
> > > It's particular to each intel processor?
> > >
> > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 15:16:34 +0100
> > > From: jmsp.1983 at gmail.com <mailto:jmsp.1983 at gmail.com>
> > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
> > >
> > > Ay carumba! All those replies!
> > >
> > > From memory...
> > >
> > > Disassembly - I've stripped the laptop down before to try
> > > to remove dust
> > > and fluff etc, so I'm fairly comfortable with that. I
> > > haven't removed the
> > > heatsink and fan, though, and I haven't removed/applied
> > > thermal paste
> > > before, so that's where I'm wanting to be more cautious.
> > >
> > > Laptop - it's a Dell Studio 1558 running an i7 720QM. It's
> > > been running
> > > warmer than usual for a good few months now - just
> > > browsing or using Word
> > > it will run at ~65 degrees. If it gets busy it will run
> > > into the 70s. I had
> > > its maximum processing state set to 85% (I've reduced it
> > > to 80% this
> > > afternoon). I use BatteryCare to manage and monitor power
> > > settings,
> > > particularly as Speedfan freezes the laptop whenever I've
> > > tried it.
> > >
> > > Preparation - I have Arctic Silver thermal paste and a
> > > bottle of
> > > isopropanol (shots all round if the procedure is a
> success!).
> > >
> > > I'll probably drop in around 11ish.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > James
> > >
> > > On 3 July 2015 at 14:50, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Doesn't seem too bad, we can probably do abit of
> > > diagnostics on it first
> > > before we take it apart
> > >
> > > NB mine is running alittle hotter than normal at the
> > > moment due to the
> > > heat, so it's normal.
> > >
> > > Olly
> > >
> > > On 03/07/15 14:46, Les Pounder wrote:
> > >
> > > IIRC James has a Dell 1735/1737 laptop like my
> beast!
> > >
> > > Here is the service manual for the CPU cooling.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://blog.parts-people.com/2011/12/05/dell-studio-17-17351737-cpu-cooling-fan-removal-and-installation/
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Olly Clark
> > > <olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
> > > <mailto:
> > > olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > > Subject: RE: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
> > > July 2015
> > > Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 14:38:40 +0100
> > > From: Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org
> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>>
> > > To: Arthur Garlick
> > > <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>>
> > > CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
> > > <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If memory serves me James it's an Intel Core
> > > 2 Duo laptop isn't
> > > it? When you say it's running hot, how hot
> > > are we talking? The
> > > BIOS should give you some temperatures, plus
> > > there are a couple of
> > > free apps you can use to monitor CPU and
> > > motherboard temps, maybe
> > > worth playing around with those tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Olly
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3 Jul 2015 14:29, Arthur Garlick
> > > <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > My 2p is: Don't take the laptop apart yet!
> > >
> > > Take a look at the "maximum processor
> > > state" setting and experiment
> > > with turning it down (assuming it's
> > > Windoze, but I am sure
> > > Linux has
> > > a similar tweak).
> > >
> > > You haven't overclocked it and forgotten
> > > have you?!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 14:05:55 +0100
> > > > From: olly at ollyclark.org
> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org
> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>
> > > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
> > > July 2015
> > > >
> > > > Hi James,
> > > >
> > > > I'll be there tomorrow, I don't mind
> > > helping you take your
> > > laptop
> > > if you
> > > > want, do you have any thermal paste and
> > > rubbing alcohol?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Olly
> > > >
> > > > On 02/07/15 17:01, James Page wrote:
> > > > > I think I need to stick some new
> > > thermal paste on my laptop's
> > > CPU. Cleaning
> > > > > out the vents etc hasn't helped to
> > > decrease the running temp.
> > > Will there be
> > > > > anybody around who could guide me
> > > through it? It's not
> > > something I've done
> > > > > before.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2 July 2015 at 13:02, Arthur
> Garlick
> > > <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi,I've just been asked to help out
> > > on a Scout camp this
> > > Saturday so won't
> > > > >> be there :o(.
> > > > >> It's been too hot to be indoors
> > > hacking this week. I've been
> > > in my garden
> > > > >> trying to get as far as I can
> > > hacking the tree stumps and
> > > roots before
> > > > >> deploying the chemical warfare.
> > > > >> It's bad form to use a chainsaw on
> > > anything but clean wood,
> > > even if you
> > > > >> powerwash the roots the grit remains
> > > and ruins the chain, a
> > > man should look
> > > > >> after his tools and the chain can
> > > pickup something sharp and
> > > fling it at
> > > > >> your head... But the convenience and
> > > speed of a chainsaw
> > > makes
> > > cutting a
> > > > >> stump out a lot less of a chore
> > > (actually it becomes an
> > > enjoyable job!). I
> > > > >> was doing this with two expensive
> > > chains and sharpening the
> > > chains between
> > > > >> runs last year, which is tedious and
> > > it doesn't take long
> > > before the grit
> > > > >> ruins the way the chains run in the
> > > saw and they have to be
> > > dumped anyway.
> > > > >> Cheap Chinese goods to the rescue
> > > yet again, at £5 a pop
> > > for a
> > > new chain it
> > > > >> makes it economical to use the
> > > chainsaw (it's still scarily
> > > unsafe though,
> > > > >> plenty of protection req'd). I have
> > > two cheapo chains and I'm
> > > still on the
> > > > >> first one, I'll probably resharpen
> > > them once and then dump
> > > them as running
> > > > >> them too long is probably damaging
> > > the saw itself.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> After looking at the Makerspace
> > > progress I had another
> > > look at
> > > my lower
> > > > >> ground floor space and decided I am
> > > going to do a proper job
> > > same as Mike.
> > > > >> I'll take the walls down to brick,
> > > tanking slurry, 25mm of
> > > insulation,
> > > > >> battens and probably I will go for
> > > OSB walls in this
> > > workshop.
> > > Floor is
> > > > >> screeded, I have read that should go
> > > back down to the
> > > concrete
> > > slab for the
> > > > >> tanking slurry to really bond in. I
> > > don't have any major damp
> > > issues in
> > > > >> this room and I'm loath to take out
> > > the screeded floor as
> > > it's
> > > quite well
> > > > >> done. So I won't get a good tanking
> > > fillet between the wall
> > > brickwork and
> > > > >> floor (I believe the tanking will
> > > not bond in with the
> > > screeded floor but I
> > > > >> will come it from the wall for about
> > > a metre with the tanking
> > > anyway). I
> > > > >> am thinking of using the sheet you
> > > use to tank a shower
> > > wetroom to overlap
> > > > >> the wall/floor join by a metre or
> > > so. 25mm foam insulation on
> > > the floor on
> > > > >> top of the wetroom style tanking
> > > sheet and a floating
> > > chipboard floor.
> > > > >> Door frames will stay as is, most
> > > people including myself
> > > will
> > > fit under
> > > > >> them without having to duck! OSB
> > > walls will be a great base
> > > for a shelving
> > > > >> and storage system. It's not a
> > > massive space so the costs
> > > won't mount up.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I will be at Preston Raspberry Jam
> > > with my soldering iron
> > > helping out
> > > > >> younglings with a soldering project.
> > > I have promised someone
> > > I'll have the
> > > > >> ESP8266 project done and written up
> > > on the blog by then
> > > too...
> > > we'll see
> > > > >> how that goes.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >> Arthur
> > > > >>> From: mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk
> > > <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk>
> > > <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk
> > > <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk>>
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> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
> > > > >>> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:49:22 +0100
> > > > >>> Subject: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
> > > July 2015
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Tyldesley Road will be open as
> > > usual Saturday from 10am.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Best regards
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Mike Hull
> > > > >>>
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