[Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
James Page
jmsp.1983 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 4 09:46:05 UTC 2015
Welp, it's not the Prom traffic that's stopping me this week, but the car
itself. Currently waiting for my brother to return with his diagnostics
kit. If I can get this sorted in the next hour I might make it down there.
Best wishes,
James
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On 3 Jul 2015 17:15, "James Page" <jmsp.1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm. After reading on the Intel forum, it looks like it's still 'safe' -
> https://communities.intel.com/message/122034
>
> I'm just concerned that the temp is running higher than it usually does
> (i.e., the laptop itself is warmer than it has been in the past).
>
> It seems that sticking i7s in laptops isn't the most temperate application
> for them.
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
> James
>
> On 3 July 2015 at 16:18, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I will be in a field teaching some Scouts how not to disgrace themselves
>> when they go to Japan next month.
>>
>> My number one tip for Japan... Learn this kanji: 大 it means BIG, that
>> way no matter how complicated and inscrutable the toilet interface gets you
>> will always know how to do a BIG flush rather than get a hot jet wash of
>> your front and back parts, with no clues how to stop it or activate the
>> dryer afterwards...
>>
>>
>> I'd like to point out that I've done this whole convo without mentioning
>> my PC is water cooled... oh damn...
>>
>> Have a good meeting guys, pics of James' open laptop surgery please!
>>
>> A
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>> > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 16:00:39 +0100
>> > From: olly at ollyclark.org
>> > To: lespounder at gmail.com
>> > CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
>> >
>> > With your AirCon on right!!! Seriously just been doing abit of Forum
>> > trawling and it appears there's quite a spread of running temps, the
>> > advice seems to be, don't be overly concerned unless it exceeds 90
>> > Degrees, then put something thick between it and your groin ;-)
>> >
>> > Olly
>> >
>> > On 03/07/15 15:54, Les Pounder wrote:
>> > > Core i5 driving two screens and watching iplayer while working
>> > >
>> > > 64c
>> > >
>> > > Les
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
>> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > James,
>> > >
>> > > Just checked my CPU temps, my cores are running at 59 and 60
>> > > degrees C and I'm running in power saving as I have a low battery,
>> > > so it may not be that out of the ordinary!!
>> > >
>> > > Olly
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 03/07/15 15:43, Arthur Garlick wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I recall that these processing state % are not necessarily
>> > > linked to the processor frequency and voltage in a linear
>> > > fashion (pretty sure they aren't in fact and the processors
>> > > step down in voltage and freq in steps, so it's a case of
>> > > knowing what that processor does).
>> > > 80% might not have done anything at all to the processor
>> > > freq and voltage. Maybe there was a small change made going
>> > > to 99% from 100% and then nothing until you drop a lot more.
>> > > It might be that for that processor the step down doesn't
>> > > happen until 79% and the next step down at 50% etc.
>> > > It's particular to each intel processor?
>> > >
>> > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 15:16:34 +0100
>> > > From: jmsp.1983 at gmail.com <mailto:jmsp.1983 at gmail.com>
>> > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
>> > >
>> > > Ay carumba! All those replies!
>> > >
>> > > From memory...
>> > >
>> > > Disassembly - I've stripped the laptop down before to try
>> > > to remove dust
>> > > and fluff etc, so I'm fairly comfortable with that. I
>> > > haven't removed the
>> > > heatsink and fan, though, and I haven't removed/applied
>> > > thermal paste
>> > > before, so that's where I'm wanting to be more cautious.
>> > >
>> > > Laptop - it's a Dell Studio 1558 running an i7 720QM. It's
>> > > been running
>> > > warmer than usual for a good few months now - just
>> > > browsing or using Word
>> > > it will run at ~65 degrees. If it gets busy it will run
>> > > into the 70s. I had
>> > > its maximum processing state set to 85% (I've reduced it
>> > > to 80% this
>> > > afternoon). I use BatteryCare to manage and monitor power
>> > > settings,
>> > > particularly as Speedfan freezes the laptop whenever I've
>> > > tried it.
>> > >
>> > > Preparation - I have Arctic Silver thermal paste and a
>> > > bottle of
>> > > isopropanol (shots all round if the procedure is a
>> success!).
>> > >
>> > > I'll probably drop in around 11ish.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Best wishes,
>> > > James
>> > >
>> > > On 3 July 2015 at 14:50, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
>> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Doesn't seem too bad, we can probably do abit of
>> > > diagnostics on it first
>> > > before we take it apart
>> > >
>> > > NB mine is running alittle hotter than normal at the
>> > > moment due to the
>> > > heat, so it's normal.
>> > >
>> > > Olly
>> > >
>> > > On 03/07/15 14:46, Les Pounder wrote:
>> > >
>> > > IIRC James has a Dell 1735/1737 laptop like my
>> beast!
>> > >
>> > > Here is the service manual for the CPU cooling.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://blog.parts-people.com/2011/12/05/dell-studio-17-17351737-cpu-cooling-fan-removal-and-installation/
>> > >
>> > > Les
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Olly Clark
>> > > <olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
>> > > <mailto:
>> > > olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> > > Subject: RE: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
>> > > July 2015
>> > > Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 14:38:40 +0100
>> > > From: Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
>> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
>> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org
>> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>>
>> > > To: Arthur Garlick
>> > > <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>>
>> > > CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
>> > > <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If memory serves me James it's an Intel Core
>> > > 2 Duo laptop isn't
>> > > it? When you say it's running hot, how hot
>> > > are we talking? The
>> > > BIOS should give you some temperatures, plus
>> > > there are a couple of
>> > > free apps you can use to monitor CPU and
>> > > motherboard temps, maybe
>> > > worth playing around with those tomorrow.
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > Olly
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 3 Jul 2015 14:29, Arthur Garlick
>> > > <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My 2p is: Don't take the laptop apart
>> yet!
>> > >
>> > > Take a look at the "maximum processor
>> > > state" setting and experiment
>> > > with turning it down (assuming it's
>> > > Windoze, but I am sure
>> > > Linux has
>> > > a similar tweak).
>> > >
>> > > You haven't overclocked it and forgotten
>> > > have you?!!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > A
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 14:05:55 +0100
>> > > > From: olly at ollyclark.org
>> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
>> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org
>> > > <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>
>> > > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
>> > > July 2015
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi James,
>> > > >
>> > > > I'll be there tomorrow, I don't mind
>> > > helping you take your
>> > > laptop
>> > > if you
>> > > > want, do you have any thermal paste and
>> > > rubbing alcohol?
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > >
>> > > > Olly
>> > > >
>> > > > On 02/07/15 17:01, James Page wrote:
>> > > > > I think I need to stick some new
>> > > thermal paste on my laptop's
>> > > CPU. Cleaning
>> > > > > out the vents etc hasn't helped to
>> > > decrease the running temp.
>> > > Will there be
>> > > > > anybody around who could guide me
>> > > through it? It's not
>> > > something I've done
>> > > > > before.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best wishes,
>> > > > > James
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 2 July 2015 at 13:02, Arthur
>> Garlick
>> > > <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>> > > <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Hi,I've just been asked to help out
>> > > on a Scout camp this
>> > > Saturday so won't
>> > > > >> be there :o(.
>> > > > >> It's been too hot to be indoors
>> > > hacking this week. I've been
>> > > in my garden
>> > > > >> trying to get as far as I can
>> > > hacking the tree stumps and
>> > > roots before
>> > > > >> deploying the chemical warfare.
>> > > > >> It's bad form to use a chainsaw on
>> > > anything but clean wood,
>> > > even if you
>> > > > >> powerwash the roots the grit remains
>> > > and ruins the chain, a
>> > > man should look
>> > > > >> after his tools and the chain can
>> > > pickup something sharp and
>> > > fling it at
>> > > > >> your head... But the convenience and
>> > > speed of a chainsaw
>> > > makes
>> > > cutting a
>> > > > >> stump out a lot less of a chore
>> > > (actually it becomes an
>> > > enjoyable job!). I
>> > > > >> was doing this with two expensive
>> > > chains and sharpening the
>> > > chains between
>> > > > >> runs last year, which is tedious and
>> > > it doesn't take long
>> > > before the grit
>> > > > >> ruins the way the chains run in the
>> > > saw and they have to be
>> > > dumped anyway.
>> > > > >> Cheap Chinese goods to the rescue
>> > > yet again, at £5 a pop
>> > > for a
>> > > new chain it
>> > > > >> makes it economical to use the
>> > > chainsaw (it's still scarily
>> > > unsafe though,
>> > > > >> plenty of protection req'd). I have
>> > > two cheapo chains and I'm
>> > > still on the
>> > > > >> first one, I'll probably resharpen
>> > > them once and then dump
>> > > them as running
>> > > > >> them too long is probably damaging
>> > > the saw itself.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> After looking at the Makerspace
>> > > progress I had another
>> > > look at
>> > > my lower
>> > > > >> ground floor space and decided I am
>> > > going to do a proper job
>> > > same as Mike.
>> > > > >> I'll take the walls down to brick,
>> > > tanking slurry, 25mm of
>> > > insulation,
>> > > > >> battens and probably I will go for
>> > > OSB walls in this
>> > > workshop.
>> > > Floor is
>> > > > >> screeded, I have read that should go
>> > > back down to the
>> > > concrete
>> > > slab for the
>> > > > >> tanking slurry to really bond in. I
>> > > don't have any major damp
>> > > issues in
>> > > > >> this room and I'm loath to take out
>> > > the screeded floor as
>> > > it's
>> > > quite well
>> > > > >> done. So I won't get a good tanking
>> > > fillet between the wall
>> > > brickwork and
>> > > > >> floor (I believe the tanking will
>> > > not bond in with the
>> > > screeded floor but I
>> > > > >> will come it from the wall for about
>> > > a metre with the tanking
>> > > anyway). I
>> > > > >> am thinking of using the sheet you
>> > > use to tank a shower
>> > > wetroom to overlap
>> > > > >> the wall/floor join by a metre or
>> > > so. 25mm foam insulation on
>> > > the floor on
>> > > > >> top of the wetroom style tanking
>> > > sheet and a floating
>> > > chipboard floor.
>> > > > >> Door frames will stay as is, most
>> > > people including myself
>> > > will
>> > > fit under
>> > > > >> them without having to duck! OSB
>> > > walls will be a great base
>> > > for a shelving
>> > > > >> and storage system. It's not a
>> > > massive space so the costs
>> > > won't mount up.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I will be at Preston Raspberry Jam
>> > > with my soldering iron
>> > > helping out
>> > > > >> younglings with a soldering project.
>> > > I have promised someone
>> > > I'll have the
>> > > > >> ESP8266 project done and written up
>> > > on the blog by then
>> > > too...
>> > > we'll see
>> > > > >> how that goes.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Regards
>> > > > >> Arthur
>> > > > >>> From: mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk
>> > > <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk>
>> > > <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk
>> > > <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk>>
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>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > > <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
>> > > > >>> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:49:22
>> +0100
>> > > > >>> Subject: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
>> > > July 2015
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Tyldesley Road will be open as
>> > > usual Saturday from 10am.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Best regards
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Mike Hull
>> > > > >>>
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