[Bradford] Fw: It Happened

[Paul Colley]

Cheers Nick - will forward on. He's pretty much a uni-focused Hendrix collector so these would all have been ROIOs he's downing afaik. Dude is pretty straight about copyright o/wise...
      From: Nick Rhodes <nick at ngrhodes.co.uk>
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Cc: "list, Bradlug" <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2015, 9:43
 Subject: Re: [Bradford] Fw: It Happened
   
If they are worried about loosing their internet connection, first thing is to comply with the request, regardless if the strikes are warranted or not, then decide to either carry on or make a challenge.It is important that they make their own informed decision and verify all statements and opinions as there is a lot of sweeping statements made about copyright and torrents that do not account for regional differences in laws and enforcement.
Some countries downloading is technically illegal for example, but laws prevent enforcement agencies being able to gather the information (because to the only people who can legally prove a download have to have a licence to legally distribute, making the observed download legal) and quite often what are civil/contract issues and what is criminal varies too.If the torrents are of dubious source, then you really need to weigh up the risks vs the gain and alternatives.
Its a personal and moral choice, would there be a detriment to dependant school kids education for example.
Movies can be bought very cheap on eBay and rented at sensible prices, is this a viable option ?Of course if they feel the strikes are unfair, you can challenge them, ask for evidence, but is it worth the effort when most service providers have clauses to terminate contracts without reason.There are proxies, seed hosts, VPN other techniques used to help mask torrent activity from you ISP.
I have no experience, but there is plenty of info about, Torrentfreak is a good website to look at.And now some legal blurb, all IMHO and may be outdated.The USA has statutory fines for piracy, making it more economically viable to sue compared to the UK (where losses have to be proven, which for non commercial activity is very hard to prove) and also the US legal system puts more emphasis on downloaders responsibilities for adhering to copyright, whereas in the UK for non commercial use, the responsibility is entirety on the distributor, the uploaded/seeder.
In both UK and US as soon as money gets involved it becomes a more completed situation (including profiting from add on tracker listing sites), potentially criminal, but I've never been able to fathom the exact legalities for UK or US in for-profit circumstances.On 25 Feb 2015 09:06, "Paul Colley" <pchcolley at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:



Blocking of course is now common in the UK too but have we gone this far? Any words or actions of succour for me to pass on to my mate in the USofA?
P.
 
      From: Jeff
 To: Paul 
 Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2015, 4:55
 Subject: It Happened
   
Hi Paul,     I think we once talked about downloading torrents and how the government or cable provider would eventually interfere or stop people from downloading here in the land of the free...
They gave 3 warnings and they took my cable away for 3 days. Next time apparently I am up for a lifetime ban. The cable company said I cannot have a bit torrent.
I can`t believe they are doing this. Is this legal?? Is there a workaround (paid no log VPN I've been reading?).
PS-Insult to injury-todays temperature was 10 degrees below zero.
   
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