[Bradford] Video conferencing

Thu Mar 19 21:45:29 UTC 2020

Ha - nice one John/Shi - with the details added to /etc/hosts it also works
for me now.

Well detective folks.

Cheers
David

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 20:06, shi via Bradford <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk>
wrote:

> Thanks, John - yeah, it seems to work if one person is online (ipv4) - as
> soon as someone else joins, we both get kicked out.
>
> --
> shi
>
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 19:59, John Leach <john at johnleach.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> ah I think I can see the problem - when you access it using the
>> bradlame name to get IPv4, it still tries to use the ipv6 name in the
>> background.
>>
>> Shi, if you add an A record to your bradlug.esyou.com host pointing to
>> the cloudip ipv4 address, it should just work now.
>>
>> If I add the following to my /etc/hosts file it works for me!
>>
>> 109.107.35.217 bradlug.esyou.com
>>
>> John.
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 19:36, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > PPS:
>> > If anyone else wants a crack at it, just let me know and I'll add you
>> as a collaborator.
>> >
>> > For now, I'm done.
>> > --
>> > shi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 19:08, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Cool, thanks all. looks like there might be issues with ipv4 even with
>> new info added to settings (thanks, John L).
>> >>
>> >> IPV6 should work tho I was restarting the server and doing things to
>> it just now so it could be that you tried the URL at those times, John H!
>> >> I saw and heard Paul Colley earlier on Jitsi so this is working for
>> one person at least.
>> >>
>> >> For now, I'm just going to leave the server/chat up and see if anyone
>> else can log in.
>> >> It could be that we use the web service ;_;
>> >>
>> >> ps: am also gonna try the same stuff on our own servers and see what
>> happens.
>> >> --
>> >> shi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 18:53, John Robert Hudson <
>> j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Shi
>> >>>
>> >>> Cannot get on with the IPv6 URL; using the IPv4 URL both chromium and
>> Firefox
>> >>> put up invalid certificate messages but let me in through Advanced.
>> However, I
>> >>> keep losing the network connection.
>> >>>
>> >>> John
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:01:32 GMT shi wrote:
>> >>> > BTW - if you're on IPV4, try this url:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > https://bradlame.esyou.com/BradLUG
>> >>> > Password (lol): windows
>> >>> >
>> >>> > It doesn't seem to work very well with IPV4, for us anyways.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > You can send a chat message to say it works for you.
>> >>> > I don't have video on but my mic may or may not be on.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > shi
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 15:18, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > > Hi John,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Done! If anyone wants to test it out - it lives here:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > https://bradlug.esyou.com/BradLUG
>> >>> > > Password (lol): windows
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I'll shut that off later in the day but people are welcome to
>> test their
>> >>> > > mic/camera/desktop if they want to.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Many thanks, John for the server - it was really easy to set up!
>> >>> > > Also thanks to Ben on Brightbox for answering some questions!
>> >>> > > --
>> >>> > > shi
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 13:58, John Robert Hudson via Bradford <
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> >>> > >> HI Shi
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> I would be happy if you would lead on this; I agree about using
>> >>> > >> Debian/Ubuntu
>> >>> > >> as a look at the Jitsi repos shows that that one is the most
>> up-to-date
>> >>> > >> one.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> John
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:16:16 GMT John Leach via Bradford
>> wrote:
>> >>> > >> > Thanks Shi!
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > We're all remote at Brightbox anyway and mostly use Google
>> Meet which
>> >>> > >> > has been fine so far.
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > but ok, if someone wants to lead this, just sign up at
>> >>> > >> > https://www.brightbox.com and name the organisation Bradlug -
>> it'll
>> >>> > >> > get £50 free credit immediately anyway (all new accounts do),
>> but I'll
>> >>> > >> > flag it as a freebie account after that anyway.
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > You'll need to provide an SSH key so that when you build the
>> server,
>> >>> > >> > it will be automatically installed. If you add some
>> collaborators to
>> >>> > >> > the account first, their SSH keys will be installed on it too.
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > Having looked over the Jitsi specs, I'd recommend a 1G server.
>> You'll
>> >>> > >> > need to map a Cloud IP to it too (unless everyone is on IPv6 :)
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > Jitsu seems to push their Debian/Ubuntu packages most
>> prominently, so
>> >>> > >> > I'd recommend one of those distros (we generally use Ubuntu).
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > John.
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 11:57, shi via Bradford
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> >>> > >> > > We are remote workers and have been at the mercy of clients
>> when it
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> comes
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > > to video conferencing (zoom and skype) but it has worked ok.
>> I have
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> also
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > > been 'attending' one-to-one cello lessons using the latter
>> software
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> for a
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > > few weeks now and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be,
>> in terms
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> of
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > > logistics and clarity of facial expressions, sound, etc.
>> Would be
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> really
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > > good to try Jitsi!
>> >>> > >> > >
>> >>> > >> > > Many thanks for the offer, John - really appreciate it!
>> >>> > >> > > --
>> >>> > >> > > shi
>> >>> > >> > >
>> >>> > >> > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 11:51, John Robert Hudson via Bradford
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> >>> > >> > >> Hi Brian
>> >>> > >> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> I think we need to give John L time to respond and set
>> things up.
>> >>> > >> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> John
>> >>> > >> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 10:55:21 GMT Brian A wrote:
>> >>> > >> > >> > May I be so bold as to suggest that we try this out on
>> Thursday at
>> >>> > >> > >> > 19:30 UK
>> >>> > >> > >> > time, if that time be convenient to interested parties.
>> John has
>> >>> > >> > >> > experience
>> >>> > >> > >> > of using Jitsi,  so maybe you could set it up John and
>> pass on
>> >>> > >> > >> > instructions??
>> >>> > >> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > >> > Brian
>> >>> > >> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > >> > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>> >>> > >> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > >> > ________________________________
>> >>> > >> > >> > From: Bradford <bradford-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk> on
>> behalf of
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> John
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > Robert Hudson via Bradford <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Sent:
>> >>> > >> > >> > Thursday,
>> >>> > >> > >> > March 19, 2020 11:20:54 AM
>> >>> > >> > >> > To: bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk <
>> bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk>;
>> >>> > >> > >> > bernie at skipole.co.uk <bernie at skipole.co.uk> Cc: Bernard
>> Czenkusz
>> >>> > >> > >> > <bernie.skipole at gmail.com>
>> >>> > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [Bradford] Video conferencing
>> >>> > >> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > >> > Hi Bernie
>> >>> > >> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > >> > I agree. If you are happy to go down that line, John, I
>> am sure a
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> lot
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > of
>> >>> > >> > >> > people would appreciate it. When you made the original
>> offer, I
>> >>> > >> > >> > was
>> >>> > >> > >> > wondering if it would be worth it just for BradLUG, but
>> if it were
>> >>> > >> > >> > practical to make the offer more widely available to
>> >>> > >> > >> > non-commercial
>> >>> > >> > >> > groups
>> >>> > >> > >> > for the next three months, say, that might also help a
>> lot of
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> people to
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > become familiar with it.
>> >>> > >> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > >> > John
>> >>> > >> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > >> > On Thursday, 19 March 2020 10:03:27 GMT Bernard Czenkusz
>> via
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Bradford
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >>> > >> > >> > > Hi guys,
>> >>> > >> > >> > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > This sounds interesting, if it works well it may be of
>> interest
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> to
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > Brightbox to offer it as a service, since I know my
>> wife's Yoga
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> class
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > is
>> >>> > >> > >> > > under threat, and presumably other excercise, yoga,
>> pilates and
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> other
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > classes. All of which may be topical in the current
>> situation.
>> >>> > >> > >> > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > >   Bernie
>> >>> > >> > >> > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > On 18/03/2020 15:44, John Leach via Bradford wrote:
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > Hi Brian,
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > my company, Brightbox, would be happy to give bradlug
>> a server
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> and
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > some bandwidth for free to have a go with
>> self-hosting Jitsi
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > if
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > you'd
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > like.
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > I'm interested in Jitsi myself too so would be
>> curious about
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> how
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > you
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > get on with it
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > Let me know if that's of interest.
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > John.
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > --
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > https://www.brightbox.com
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 13:27, John Robert Hudson via
>> Bradford
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >
>> >>> > >> > >> > > > <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >> Hi Brian
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >> Jitsi certainly seemed a good option the last time I
>> looked
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> at it.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >> John
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >> On Wednesday, 18 March 2020 10:22:05 GMT bradlug---
>> via
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Bradford
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> Following John's suggestion for a virtual meeting,
>> I have,
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> this
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> morning,
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> taken a brief look at what is available to
>> facilitate that.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Jitsi
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> seems
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> to
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> be a good option. It is free to use, self host if
>> you want,
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> and
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> Open
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> Source. For me that ticks all the boxes, though I
>> am not
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> suggesting
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> self
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> hosting due to the presumed large bandwidth
>> required. Hence,
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> the
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> question
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> is, do you think this is a good choice and, if so,
>> who would
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> like
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> to
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> try
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> this out? Brian
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >>
>> >>> > >> > >> > > >> --
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