[Bradford] Video conferencing
John Robert Hudson
j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com
Thu Mar 19 22:00:47 UTC 2020
Hi John
Thanks. Adding to /etc/hosts file allows me to log in to bradlug.esyou.com and
everything seems to work fine though chromium still insists on me going
through Advanced because of the lack of a valid certificate.
John
On Thursday, 19 March 2020 19:59:20 GMT John Leach wrote:
> ah I think I can see the problem - when you access it using the
> bradlame name to get IPv4, it still tries to use the ipv6 name in the
> background.
>
> Shi, if you add an A record to your bradlug.esyou.com host pointing to
> the cloudip ipv4 address, it should just work now.
>
> If I add the following to my /etc/hosts file it works for me!
>
> 109.107.35.217 bradlug.esyou.com
>
> John.
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 19:36, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > PPS:
> > If anyone else wants a crack at it, just let me know and I'll add you as a
> > collaborator.
> >
> > For now, I'm done.
> > --
> > shi
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 19:08, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Cool, thanks all. looks like there might be issues with ipv4 even with
> >> new info added to settings (thanks, John L).
> >>
> >> IPV6 should work tho I was restarting the server and doing things to it
> >> just now so it could be that you tried the URL at those times, John H! I
> >> saw and heard Paul Colley earlier on Jitsi so this is working for one
> >> person at least.
> >>
> >> For now, I'm just going to leave the server/chat up and see if anyone
> >> else can log in. It could be that we use the web service ;_;
> >>
> >> ps: am also gonna try the same stuff on our own servers and see what
> >> happens. --
> >> shi
> >>
> >> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 18:53, John Robert Hudson
<j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi Shi
> >>>
> >>> Cannot get on with the IPv6 URL; using the IPv4 URL both chromium and
> >>> Firefox put up invalid certificate messages but let me in through
> >>> Advanced. However, I keep losing the network connection.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:01:32 GMT shi wrote:
> >>> > BTW - if you're on IPV4, try this url:
> >>> >
> >>> > https://bradlame.esyou.com/BradLUG
> >>> > Password (lol): windows
> >>> >
> >>> > It doesn't seem to work very well with IPV4, for us anyways.
> >>> >
> >>> > You can send a chat message to say it works for you.
> >>> > I don't have video on but my mic may or may not be on.
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > shi
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 15:18, shi <notshi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > > Hi John,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Done! If anyone wants to test it out - it lives here:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > https://bradlug.esyou.com/BradLUG
> >>> > > Password (lol): windows
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I'll shut that off later in the day but people are welcome to test
> >>> > > their
> >>> > > mic/camera/desktop if they want to.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Many thanks, John for the server - it was really easy to set up!
> >>> > > Also thanks to Ben on Brightbox for answering some questions!
> >>> > > --
> >>> > > shi
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 13:58, John Robert Hudson via Bradford <
> >>> > >
> >>> > > bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> >>> > >> HI Shi
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I would be happy if you would lead on this; I agree about using
> >>> > >> Debian/Ubuntu
> >>> > >> as a look at the Jitsi repos shows that that one is the most
> >>> > >> up-to-date
> >>> > >> one.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> John
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:16:16 GMT John Leach via Bradford
wrote:
> >>> > >> > Thanks Shi!
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > We're all remote at Brightbox anyway and mostly use Google Meet
> >>> > >> > which
> >>> > >> > has been fine so far.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > but ok, if someone wants to lead this, just sign up at
> >>> > >> > https://www.brightbox.com and name the organisation Bradlug -
> >>> > >> > it'll
> >>> > >> > get £50 free credit immediately anyway (all new accounts do), but
> >>> > >> > I'll
> >>> > >> > flag it as a freebie account after that anyway.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > You'll need to provide an SSH key so that when you build the
> >>> > >> > server,
> >>> > >> > it will be automatically installed. If you add some collaborators
> >>> > >> > to
> >>> > >> > the account first, their SSH keys will be installed on it too.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Having looked over the Jitsi specs, I'd recommend a 1G server.
> >>> > >> > You'll
> >>> > >> > need to map a Cloud IP to it too (unless everyone is on IPv6 :)
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Jitsu seems to push their Debian/Ubuntu packages most
> >>> > >> > prominently, so
> >>> > >> > I'd recommend one of those distros (we generally use Ubuntu).
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > John.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 11:57, shi via Bradford
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> >>> > >> > > We are remote workers and have been at the mercy of clients
> >>> > >> > > when it
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> comes
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > > to video conferencing (zoom and skype) but it has worked ok. I
> >>> > >> > > have
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> also
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > > been 'attending' one-to-one cello lessons using the latter
> >>> > >> > > software
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> for a
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > > few weeks now and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, in
> >>> > >> > > terms
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> of
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > > logistics and clarity of facial expressions, sound, etc. Would
> >>> > >> > > be
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> really
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > > good to try Jitsi!
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > Many thanks for the offer, John - really appreciate it!
> >>> > >> > > --
> >>> > >> > > shi
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 11:51, John Robert Hudson via Bradford
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> >>> > >> > >> Hi Brian
> >>> > >> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> I think we need to give John L time to respond and set things
> >>> > >> > >> up.
> >>> > >> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> John
> >>> > >> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> On Thursday, 19 March 2020 10:55:21 GMT Brian A wrote:
> >>> > >> > >> > May I be so bold as to suggest that we try this out on
> >>> > >> > >> > Thursday at
> >>> > >> > >> > 19:30 UK
> >>> > >> > >> > time, if that time be convenient to interested parties. John
> >>> > >> > >> > has
> >>> > >> > >> > experience
> >>> > >> > >> > of using Jitsi, so maybe you could set it up John and pass
> >>> > >> > >> > on
> >>> > >> > >> > instructions??
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > Brian
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > ________________________________
> >>> > >> > >> > From: Bradford <bradford-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk> on
> >>> > >> > >> > behalf of
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> John
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > Robert Hudson via Bradford <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> >>> > >> > >> > Sent:
> >>> > >> > >> > Thursday,
> >>> > >> > >> > March 19, 2020 11:20:54 AM
> >>> > >> > >> > To: bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk
> >>> > >> > >> > <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk>;
> >>> > >> > >> > bernie at skipole.co.uk <bernie at skipole.co.uk> Cc: Bernard
> >>> > >> > >> > Czenkusz
> >>> > >> > >> > <bernie.skipole at gmail.com>
> >>> > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [Bradford] Video conferencing
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > Hi Bernie
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > I agree. If you are happy to go down that line, John, I am
> >>> > >> > >> > sure a
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> lot
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > of
> >>> > >> > >> > people would appreciate it. When you made the original
> >>> > >> > >> > offer, I
> >>> > >> > >> > was
> >>> > >> > >> > wondering if it would be worth it just for BradLUG, but if
> >>> > >> > >> > it were
> >>> > >> > >> > practical to make the offer more widely available to
> >>> > >> > >> > non-commercial
> >>> > >> > >> > groups
> >>> > >> > >> > for the next three months, say, that might also help a lot
> >>> > >> > >> > of
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> people to
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > become familiar with it.
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > John
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > On Thursday, 19 March 2020 10:03:27 GMT Bernard Czenkusz via
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Bradford
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>> > >> > >> > > Hi guys,
> >>> > >> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > This sounds interesting, if it works well it may be of
> >>> > >> > >> > > interest
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> to
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > Brightbox to offer it as a service, since I know my wife's
> >>> > >> > >> > > Yoga
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> class
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > is
> >>> > >> > >> > > under threat, and presumably other excercise, yoga,
> >>> > >> > >> > > pilates and
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> other
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > classes. All of which may be topical in the current
> >>> > >> > >> > > situation.
> >>> > >> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > Bernie
> >>> > >> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > On 18/03/2020 15:44, John Leach via Bradford wrote:
> >>> > >> > >> > > > Hi Brian,
> >>> > >> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > > my company, Brightbox, would be happy to give bradlug a
> >>> > >> > >> > > > server
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> and
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > > some bandwidth for free to have a go with self-hosting
> >>> > >> > >> > > > Jitsi
> >>> > >> > >> > > > if
> >>> > >> > >> > > > you'd
> >>> > >> > >> > > > like.
> >>> > >> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > > I'm interested in Jitsi myself too so would be curious
> >>> > >> > >> > > > about
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> how
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > > you
> >>> > >> > >> > > > get on with it
> >>> > >> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > > Let me know if that's of interest.
> >>> > >> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > > John.
> >>> > >> > >> > > > --
> >>> > >> > >> > > > https://www.brightbox.com
> >>> > >> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 13:27, John Robert Hudson via
> >>> > >> > >> > > > Bradford
> >>> > >> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > > <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> >>> > >> > >> > > >> Hi Brian
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >> Jitsi certainly seemed a good option the last time I
> >>> > >> > >> > > >> looked
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> at it.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >> John
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >> On Wednesday, 18 March 2020 10:22:05 GMT bradlug--- via
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Bradford
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> Following John's suggestion for a virtual meeting, I
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> have,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> this
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> morning,
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> taken a brief look at what is available to facilitate
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> that.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Jitsi
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> seems
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> to
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> be a good option. It is free to use, self host if you
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> want,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> and
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> Open
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> Source. For me that ticks all the boxes, though I am
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> not
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> suggesting
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> self
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> hosting due to the presumed large bandwidth required.
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> Hence,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> the
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> question
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> is, do you think this is a good choice and, if so, who
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> would
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> like
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> to
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> try
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>> this out? Brian
> >>> > >> > >> > > >>
> >>> > >> > >> > > >> --
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