[Chester LUG] Microblogging

Dan Lynch biglynchy at gmail.com
Sat Feb 7 18:05:05 UTC 2009


Yes I totally agree it should be the users choice. It's strange because
being licensed under the AGPL Identica is one of the few truly free web
services around. I know Evan the creator is very keen on not locking users
in, you still own all data and not the website, if you leave yo have the
right to take all data with you. I wonder what the terms are on Twitter?
More restrictive I bet, I'll have to look.

We interviewed Evan for the podcast a while back so I might email him and
ask him about this. I always thought CC license was optional. Obviously I
was wrong

Uggh

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Stuart Burns
<stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>wrote:

> I did try but unfortunately if u dont accept, you cant have an
> account. Not that i have much i wouldnt want to me, just the principle
> really.
>
> On 2/7/09, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that Facebook
> own
> > all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs!
> >
> > It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what
> > they're clicking when they agree to licenses.  Would be interesting to
> see
> > if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under Creative
> >> Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would make
> >> others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I
> >> always
> >> thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it not
> >> let
> >> you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed
> that
> >> was optional :S
> >>
> >> The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and sometimes
> >> the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates
> about
> >> meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else could
> >> really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that
> >> information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that
> >> anything
> >> you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like
> >> Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there
> was
> >> a
> >> big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying than
> >> CC.
> >>
> >> As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel
> comfortable
> >> posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't
> >> optional
> >> then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :)
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns <
> >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Everyone.
> >>>
> >>> Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign up
> >>> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free
> for
> >>> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really
> >>> want
> >>> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes ?
> >>>
> >>> http://identi.ca/main/register
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/2/6 David Holden <dh at iucr.org>
> >>>
> >>>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote:
> >>>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've
> >>>> > said
> >>>> a
> >>>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or
> >>>> offputting
> >>>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on places
> >>>> like
> >>>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been much
> >>>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less
> >>>> confident
> >>>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to
> >>>> follow
> >>>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Dave.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dr. David Holden.
> >>>>
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