[Chester LUG] Microblogging

Stuart Burns stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
Sat Feb 7 21:30:24 UTC 2009


I did try without the tick in the box, but it was a no go. Almost as bad as
MS ;) JK

2009/2/7 Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>

> Yes I totally agree it should be the users choice. It's strange because
> being licensed under the AGPL Identica is one of the few truly free web
> services around. I know Evan the creator is very keen on not locking users
> in, you still own all data and not the website, if you leave yo have the
> right to take all data with you. I wonder what the terms are on Twitter?
> More restrictive I bet, I'll have to look.
>
> We interviewed Evan for the podcast a while back so I might email him and
> ask him about this. I always thought CC license was optional. Obviously I
> was wrong
>
> Uggh
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Stuart Burns <stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I did try but unfortunately if u dont accept, you cant have an
>> account. Not that i have much i wouldnt want to me, just the principle
>> really.
>>
>> On 2/7/09, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that Facebook
>> own
>> > all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs!
>> >
>> > It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what
>> > they're clicking when they agree to licenses.  Would be interesting to
>> see
>> > if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under
>> Creative
>> >> Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would
>> make
>> >> others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I
>> >> always
>> >> thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it not
>> >> let
>> >> you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed
>> that
>> >> was optional :S
>> >>
>> >> The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and
>> sometimes
>> >> the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates
>> about
>> >> meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else could
>> >> really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that
>> >> information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that
>> >> anything
>> >> you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like
>> >> Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there
>> was
>> >> a
>> >> big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying
>> than
>> >> CC.
>> >>
>> >> As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel
>> comfortable
>> >> posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't
>> >> optional
>> >> then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :)
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns <
>> >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Everyone.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign
>> up
>> >>> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free
>> for
>> >>> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you really
>> >>> want
>> >>> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes
>> ?
>> >>>
>> >>> http://identi.ca/main/register
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/2/6 David Holden <dh at iucr.org>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote:
>> >>>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've
>> >>>> > said
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or
>> >>>> offputting
>> >>>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on
>> places
>> >>>> like
>> >>>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been
>> much
>> >>>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less
>> >>>> confident
>> >>>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to
>> >>>> follow
>> >>>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  Dave.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Dr. David Holden.
>> >>>>
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