[Chester LUG] CCNA
Stephen Jones
stephenjones at g-b-a.co.uk
Tue Nov 16 09:31:22 UTC 2010
Hi Ben,
Not a member of the Wrexham LUG yet! however will be soon somehow when on
the Linx distro horse search for the right one to use, a few years back I
ended up being a member of the chester LUG somehow.
Where and when do the meets occur in Wrexham?.
Regards
Stephen
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Hi Stephen --
Seems a bit quiet here, so I'll say welcome! Always good to have new
lurkers, err, members :)
I'm not into networking tremendously but I'll comment that a motto of
mine for many things is that 'it's not what it costs but what it's
worth' - especially with education and courses, even if they turn out
rubbish, one still knows they're rubbish and what to go for next. As
you say, it was all there without some of the usual hassle.
Hope you can make a meet, though I may predict numbers may drop
slightly over the next while! You say you passed your CCNA in Wrexham,
are you on their list too? I'm due to go there instead of Liverpool,
next month.
Cheers,
Ben
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:51:40 -0000, you (Stephen) wrote:
| Hi Everyone,
|
| My name is Stephen, I have joined the LUG a while ago however
| haven't attend contributed anything sorry to say. I recently passed
| my CCNA via Yale in Wrexham however IT was over two year period
| which cost me 350 pound per year. Bargin! However the trade off is a
| long time commitment but on the plus I didn't have to make any
| investment in equipment and then bundle it off on ebay afterwards.
| They also offered believe until recently the Cisco Wireless course
| too which was a doddle compare to the CCNA and only a year.
| Regards
|
| Stephen
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| Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:04:36 +0000
| From: Nev <nev at nevstah.co.uk>
| Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] ccna etc
| To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
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| hiya
|
| i did mine with commsupport and was really pleased with it all..
| just need to practise lots till i'm ready for the exam!!
|
| i work in nantwich and also drive! i dont have any of the kit tho.
| i'm sure we could all get together and help each other pass!
|
| ta
|
| nev
|
| On 02/11/2010 14:38, Michael Crilly wrote:
| > Good stuff Nev.
| >
| > I don't think I will do a course. I have a CCNA kit at home, so I'm
| confident I can self study it all.
| >
| > If I had a car, I would suggest lugging the kit somewhere we can
| > meet up
| at so we can both mess around with it, but I don't have that luxury.
| >
| > I would be up for a meet up with you and Thomas to swap resources.
| > I have
| a CCNA set of books too which have Cisco videos on.
| >
| > Let me know.
| >
| > Regards,
| >
| > Mike.
| >
| > On 2 Nov 2010, at 14:34, Thomas
| > Prophett<thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk>
| wrote:
| >
| >> Nev
| >>
| >> Who did you do the ccna course with?
| >>
| >> Thomas.
| >>
| >> On 2 November 2010 14:28, Nev<nev at nevstah.co.uk> wrote:
| >>> hi mike
| >>>
| >>> thanks for the welcome
| >>>
| >>> sorry for the slow reply. was on the ccna course all last week
| >>> in manchester, manic to say the least!
| >>> i just need to practise so i can take the exam now!!
| >>>
| >>> i've not heard of train signal before! i got a bunch of videos
| >>> from the folks i trained with, maybe a swap would be in order!
| >>>
| >>> ta
| >>>
| >>> nev
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> On 23/10/10 11:26, Michael Crilly wrote:
| >>>> Hi Nev,
| >>>>
| >>>> Welcome to the list :)
| >>>>
| >>>> I'm self studying a large majority of the course and if I feel
| >>>> confident, go for the exams. If not, I'm going to do a five day
| >>>> crash course with a lot of the material already covered.
| >>>>
| >>>> If you fancy getting together, I can give you a copy of the
| >>>> Train Signal videos I have which are decent :)
| >>>>
| >>>> Let me know mate.
| >>>>
| >>>> Regards,
| >>>>
| >>>> Mike.
| >>>>
| >>>> On 23 Oct 2010, at 10:55, Nev<nev at nevstah.co.uk
| >>>> <mailto:nev at nevstah.co.uk>> wrote:
| >>>>
| >>>>> hi mike
| >>>>>
| >>>>> where are you doing ccna? and hows it going? I'm starting
| >>>>> tomorrow!
| >>>>>
| >>>>> nev
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
| >>>>>
| >>>>> On 23 Oct 2010, at 10:03, Michael
| >>>>> Crilly<mrcrilly at googlemail.com
| >>>>> <mailto:mrcrilly at googlemail.com>> wrote:
| >>>>>
| >>>>>> Hit it with a stick.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> I need to sit down with you Stuart an pick your brains on
| >>>>>> networking fundamentals. I'm doing my CCNA at present.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Besides we aint seen each other for some time now :)
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Regards,
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Mike.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> On 23 Oct 2010, at 09:50, Stuart
| >>>>>> Burns<stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
| >>>>>> <mailto:stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>> wrote:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>> I agre but the problem is how do I tell it which gateway is
| >>>>>>> default, ie the WAN:)
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> On 23 October 2010 07:33, Michael
| >>>>>>> Crilly<mrcrilly at googlemail.com
| >>>>>>> <mailto:mrcrilly at googlemail.com>> wrote:
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Isn't that done via the gateway IP you supply to each
| >>>>>>> host? Usually a router/switch that gets a packet/frame not
| >>>>>>> in it's own subnet will forward to the gateway no?
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Regards,
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Mike.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> On 22 Oct 2010, at 23:22, Stuart Burns
| >>>>>>> <stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
| >>>>>>> <mailto:stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>> wrote:
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Hiya,
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Is anyone really good with pfsense.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> I have a small pc to function as a pfsense router.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> It has 3 interfaces - LAN,WAN,OPT
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> The LAN is *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud
| >>>>>>>> attempt from "10.0.0.0" claiming to be *MailScanner
| >>>>>>>> warning: numerical links are often malicious:
| >>>>>>>> 10.0.0.0/16**<http://10.0.0.0/16>***
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> WAN is provided by DHCP
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> The last interface is *MailScanner has detected a
| >>>>>>>> possible fraud attempt from "172.16.0.0" claiming to be*
| >>>>>>>> <http://172.16.0.0/24>**MailScanner has detected a
| >>>>>>>> possible fraud attempt from "172.16.0.0" claiming to be*
| >>>>>>>> <http://172.16.0.0/24>***MailScanner has detected a
| >>>>>>>> possible fraud attempt from "172.16.0.0" claiming to be
| >>>>>>>> *MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious:
| >>>>>>>> 172.16.0.0/24** <http://172.16.0.0/24>***
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Now I can get all the routes talking to each other.
| >>>>>>>> However I cant get the 172.16.0.0 to use a default route
| >>>>>>>> to push it out the DHCP assigned WAN interface. I cant see
| >>>>>>>> anywhere to say any traffic with no explicit route, route
| >>>>>>>> via WAN.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Anyone know if its even possible ?
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Regards
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Stuart
| >>>>>>>>
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| Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:29:27 +0000
| From: Stuart Burns <stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>
| Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] ccna etc
| To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
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| If anyone is interested, I am (trying) to run the networking course
| again before end of Jan. Taught by a pro lecturer. It's a basics and
| intermediate day long hands on.
|
| Cost would be less than ?100 each. Would prolly need 7 people or so.
|
| Just putting it out there.
|
| Stu
|
| On 2 November 2010 20:04, Nev <nev at nevstah.co.uk> wrote:
|
| > hiya
| >
| > i did mine with commsupport and was really pleased with it all..
| > just need to practise lots till i'm ready for the exam!!
| >
| > i work in nantwich and also drive! i dont have any of the kit tho.
| > i'm
| sure
| > we could all get together and help each other pass!
| >
| > ta
| >
| > nev
| >
| >
| > On 02/11/2010 14:38, Michael Crilly wrote:
| >
| >> Good stuff Nev.
| >>
| >> I don't think I will do a course. I have a CCNA kit at home, so
| >> I'm confident I can self study it all.
| >>
| >> If I had a car, I would suggest lugging the kit somewhere we can
| >> meet up at so we can both mess around with it, but I don't have
| >> that luxury.
| >>
| >> I would be up for a meet up with you and Thomas to swap
| >> resources. I have a CCNA set of books too which have Cisco videos
| >> on.
| >>
| >> Let me know.
| >>
| >> Regards,
| >>
| >> Mike.
| >>
| >> On 2 Nov 2010, at 14:34, Thomas
| >> Prophett<thomas at thomasprophett.co.uk> wrote:
| >>
| >> Nev
| >>>
| >>> Who did you do the ccna course with?
| >>>
| >>> Thomas.
| >>>
| >>> On 2 November 2010 14:28, Nev<nev at nevstah.co.uk> wrote:
| >>>
| >>>> hi mike
| >>>>
| >>>> thanks for the welcome
| >>>>
| >>>> sorry for the slow reply. was on the ccna course all last week
| >>>> in manchester, manic to say the least!
| >>>> i just need to practise so i can take the exam now!!
| >>>>
| >>>> i've not heard of train signal before! i got a bunch of videos
| >>>> from the folks i trained with, maybe a swap would be in order!
| >>>>
| >>>> ta
| >>>>
| >>>> nev
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> On 23/10/10 11:26, Michael Crilly wrote:
| >>>>
| >>>>> Hi Nev,
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Welcome to the list :)
| >>>>>
| >>>>> I'm self studying a large majority of the course and if I feel
| >>>>> confident,
| >>>>> go for the exams. If not, I'm going to do a five day crash
| >>>>> course with a lot
| >>>>> of the material already covered.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> If you fancy getting together, I can give you a copy of the
| >>>>> Train Signal
| >>>>> videos I have which are decent :)
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Let me know mate.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Regards,
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Mike.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> On 23 Oct 2010, at 10:55, Nev<nev at nevstah.co.uk
| >>>>> <mailto:nev at nevstah.co.uk>> wrote:
| >>>>>
| >>>>> hi mike
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> where are you doing ccna? and hows it going? I'm starting
| >>>>>> tomorrow!
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> nev
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> On 23 Oct 2010, at 10:03, Michael
| >>>>>> Crilly<mrcrilly at googlemail.com
| >>>>>> <mailto:mrcrilly at googlemail.com>> wrote:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Hit it with a stick.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> I need to sit down with you Stuart an pick your brains on
| >>>>>>> networking fundamentals. I'm doing my CCNA at present.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Besides we aint seen each other for some time now :)
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Regards,
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Mike.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> On 23 Oct 2010, at 09:50, Stuart
| >>>>>>> Burns<stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
| >>>>>>> <mailto:stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>> wrote:
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> I agre but the problem is how do I tell it which gateway is
| default,
| >>>>>>>> ie
| >>>>>>>> the WAN:)
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> On 23 October 2010 07:33, Michael
| >>>>>>>> Crilly<mrcrilly at googlemail.com
| >>>>>>>> <mailto:mrcrilly at googlemail.com>> wrote:
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Isn't that done via the gateway IP you supply to each
| >>>>>>>> host? Usually a router/switch that gets a packet/frame not
| >>>>>>>> in it's own subnet will forward to the gateway no?
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Regards,
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Mike.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> On 22 Oct 2010, at 23:22, Stuart Burns
| >>>>>>>> <stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
| >>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>> wrote:
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Hiya,
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> Is anyone really good with pfsense.
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> I have a small pc to function as a pfsense router.
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> It has 3 interfaces - LAN,WAN,OPT
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> The LAN is *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud
| >>>>>>>>> attempt from "10.0.0.0" claiming to be *MailScanner
| >>>>>>>>> warning: numerical links are often malicious:
| >>>>>>>>> 10.0.0.0/16**<http://10.0.0.0/16>***
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> WAN is provided by DHCP
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> The last interface is *MailScanner has detected a
| >>>>>>>>> possible fraud attempt from "172.16.0.0" claiming to be*
| >>>>>>>>> <http://172.16.0.0/24>**MailScanner has detected a
| >>>>>>>>> possible fraud attempt from "172.16.0.0" claiming to be*
| >>>>>>>>> <http://172.16.0.0/24>***MailScanner has detected a
| >>>>>>>>> possible fraud attempt from "172.16.0.0" claiming to be
| >>>>>>>>> *MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious:
| >>>>>>>>> 172.16.0.0/24** <http://172.16.0.0/24>***
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> Now I can get all the routes talking to each other.
| >>>>>>>>> However I cant get the 172.16.0.0 to use a default route
| >>>>>>>>> to push it out the DHCP assigned WAN interface. I cant see
| >>>>>>>>> anywhere to say any traffic with no explicit route, route
| >>>>>>>>> via WAN.
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> Anyone know if its even possible ?
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> Regards
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> Stuart
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> ***
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> ***
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
| >>>>>>>>> Chester mailing list
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