[Chester LUG] You've heard about the Google thing..

Thu Jan 26 17:37:49 UTC 2012

How is the other pc-bsd user doing. The two of you against the world ;)

On 26 January 2012 17:15, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's interesting. I've been trying a few distros out recently after
> Ubuntu went to Gnome 3. When Mint went to Gnome 3 I gave it a quick go
> but wasn't impressed.
>
> At the moment I've ended up using XFCE on a few different distros and
> am really liking it again. Nice and simple, plus you can use compiz if
> you want.
>
> I've also started testing PC-BSD again, I know it's not appropriate
> for this list :-) but so far I'm quite impressed. I really like the
> idea of all applications being completely independent of each other.
> Could reduce the stress caused when you upgrade one package and it
> breaks others.
>
> Les
>
> On 26 January 2012 15:57, David Holden <dh at iucr.org> wrote:
> > I used the gnome version of mint 12 for a while, it was OK but a bit
> > clunky. I eventually went for SUSE 12.1 which is pretty vanilla gnome
> > but did some tweeks, like allowing maximise/minimise windows, plus some
> > tweaks from here https://extensions.gnome.org/
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> > On 26/01/12 15:54, Les Pritchard wrote:
> >> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >> Are you using the Gnome version of Mint? If so, how have you been
> finding it?
> >>
> >> Les
> >>
> >> On 26 January 2012 15:45, Paul Williams <wilp4a at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> I tried duck duck go as a default for about a month, but it never
> seemed to
> >>> return the results I needed.  Maybe there's something positive to say
> about
> >>> google's profiling there.
> >>>
> >>> When I switched to Mint 12, I lost the "right click> search google"
> option
> >>> in Firefox.  Since I use it all the time to check IP addresses and
> google
> >>> throws up "stop forum spam" within 2 results every time, I watched with
> >>> horror as duck duck go failed to display it for several pages.  I have
> since
> >>> hacked firefox back to give google as default.
> >>>
> >>> I respect what duck duck go stand for, but it's not for me.
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:34:39 +0000
> >>>> From: les.pritchard at gmail.com
> >>>> To: chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Chester LUG] You've heard about the Google thing..
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In fact, that reminds me. A few years back I met a guy who was in the
> >>>> business of selling Eastern European wifes (although I think he worded
> >>>> it a bit better and legally than that!). He was setting up a website
> >>>> for his company, all I could think of were pages with the Amazon style
> >>>> "Customers who looked at this lady also liked..." at the bottom :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 26 January 2012 15:30, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> Blimey, their profiling is spot on!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 26 January 2012 15:25, Stuart Burns <stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> I guess for the time being I shall just put up with adverts for
> Russian
> >>>>>> brides, Viagra and hitmen for now. (kidding!)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 26 January 2012 15:22, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, in a way Google is run in a very honest way. They're a bunch
> of
> >>>>>>> techies who don't enjoy the support and personal interaction.
> Normally
> >>>>>>> there's a buffer between them and customers in most companies, but
> >>>>>>> that never happened for Google.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 26 January 2012 15:07, David Holden <dh at iucr.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The interesting thing to me about Google is their almost non
> >>>>>>>> existent
> >>>>>>>> support. More and more my online presence relies on them but if
> >>>>>>>> something goes wrong there appears to be little in the way of
> >>>>>>>> resolution, sans their poor help system. I compare this to say
> >>>>>>>> Amazon,
> >>>>>>>> who in my experience provide excellent support, their Kindle
> support
> >>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> amazing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dave.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 26/01/12 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Interesting stuff, the whole search engine world seemed to go
> very
> >>>>>>>>> quiet for a while - like everyone had given up and let Google get
> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> with it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The trouble with all of these is scaling and that's where Google
> >>>>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>> it bang on. They've now got to such a size that all these other
> >>>>>>>>> sites
> >>>>>>>>> feel so slow - even if we're just talking seconds!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's really good to have some more competition in this area
> though
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> I'll have a good play. I do find it funny that this slightly
> >>>>>>>>> anti-Google conversation has included three Gmail users, I'm sure
> >>>>>>>>> they're watching us :-p
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Les
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 26 January 2012 14:27, Ben Arnold <BenArnold at fsfe.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Highly recommended, I've had it as my default for months as the
> >>>>>>>>>> search
> >>>>>>>>>> box
> >>>>>>>>>> in my Opera no longer has a Google entry :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I believe this is (to become) the default in Linux Mint n+1,
> >>>>>>>>>> probably
> >>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>> Firefox but I imagine they could do it for all the browsers they
> >>>>>>>>>> package.
> >>>>>>>>>> The bang search terms are ridiculously useful, "!github
> <search>"
> >>>>>>>>>> etc.,
> >>>>>>>>>> though "!google <search terms>" not so much...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've also come across Seeks, http://www.seeks-project.info/ and
> >>>>>>>>>> search
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> thier instance https://www.seeks-project.info/search.php,
> which I
> >>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>> that, as a decentralised service, aims to group users that
> search
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>> similar terms so they can provide useful results for that group.
> >>>>>>>>>> Sort
> >>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>> like voting up, but not for individual searches. Yes, I'm still
> >>>>>>>>>> confused.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Until later,
> >>>>>>>>>> Ben
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 26 January 2012 12:52, Stuart Burns
> >>>>>>>>>> <stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I found out about a new search engine and have been using it
> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> week or
> >>>>>>>>>>> so. Google like it used to be, without annoying ads, tracking,
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> asking do
> >>>>>>>>>>> I want to upload to + etc. It also, most importantly has good
> >>>>>>>>>>> privacy, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> all sorts of customisable options, to include fully secure
> >>>>>>>>>>> search, no
> >>>>>>>>>>> search
> >>>>>>>>>>> term passing etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> www.duckduckgo.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It's clean, it's simple, it's relevant and quick.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also it has some geeky toys http://duckduckgo.com/goodies.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Ben Arnold
> >>>>>>>>>> Chester, UK
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Free Software Foundation (Europe) Fellow
> >>>>>>>>>> e: benarnold at fsfe.org  |  ben at seawolfsanctuary.com
> >>>>>>>>>> w: seawolfsanctuary.com  |  chat: benarnold at jabber.fsfe.org
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>>>>> Chester at mailman.lug.org.uk
> >>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/chester
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Stuart Burns
> >>>>>> E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
> >>>>>> M: [redacted]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>
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> >
> > --
> > Dr David Holden. (dh at iucr.org)
> >
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E: stuart.james.burns at gmail.com
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