[dundee] Re: dundee Digest, Vol 76, Issue 2

Fri Aug 25 12:15:33 BST 2006

It's a moot point for companys in the know now... at a recent interview I
mentioned my intentions of doing Abertay's Ethical Hacking MSc (next year if
it goes ahead) they were more interested than skeptical.

First impressions count for a lot, if you don't look and behave like a shady
character that will rip companys off (and if your intent is not to rip them
off...) they will continue to belive that until you prove otherwise.

With recent high profile vulnerabilities, and the proliferation of sites
such as myspace - and the resulting attacks upon them, the layman is
becoming more interested in security, and thusly those higher up are coming
to terms with what a 'hacker' regardless of their color of hat is.

I'd like to point out that security has always been an issue, but as the use
of computers and the internet spreads more into peoples daily lifes, the
more these security issues affect them and by default their awareness and
understanding of it increases.

</2cents>

Also, Welcome to Dundee mate, I've just graduated from Abertay doing
straight computing - I'm sure you'll have a laugh (and hopefully learn
something too)... hopefully this Ethical hacking course will bring a few
more 'hackers' into Dundee and could provide some fresh blood for
interesting meets and specialist subject groups.

On 24/08/06, dundee-request at mailman.lug.org.uk <
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> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:37:48 +0100 (BST)
> From: Lee Hughes <toxicnaan at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [dundee] any penguins in dundee?
> To: Tayside Linux User Group <dundee at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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> I'll be going to Abertay if I get accepted..the course is a new one.. ;-)
>
> http://www.abertay.ac.uk/Courses/CDetails.cfm?CID=363&Key=002
>
> I'm looking for accomodation , hopefully with some other hackers, and a
> part time jobs up there, I've got a CCNA n know 'things' about 'unix' and
> 'networks' ;-).
>
> so if you people know of anything that I could get upto in conjuction with
> my studies let me know. Obviously working with linux is my thing, but I'm
> willing to go over to the dark side (windows) for earning extra beer
> tokens!!.
>
> Where's a nice place to live in Dundee which is fairly close (cycling)
> distance to abertay? Any advice would be most welcome , and I'll get you a
> pint when we meet. :-).
>
> Cheers,
> Lee
>
> Simon Wells <swells at computing.dundee.ac.uk> wrote: There are some but it
> has been very quiet for the last year or so.
> Will you be studying at Dundee or Abertay? What subject?
>
> Simon Wells
>
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> On 23 Aug 2006, at 02:24, Lee Hughes wrote:
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> > Hiya,
> > I might be comming to dundee to study is september, just wanted to
> > know if there are any penguin people up there I could network with
> > etc etc.
> >
> > I'm a gentoo user, do you hate me already? ;-)
> >
> > Just saying hello and stuff .... anyone around?
> >
> > so hello.
> >
> > Laters,
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all
> > new Yahoo! Security Centre.
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> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:02:37 +0100
> From: rb <urbanwookie at gmail.com>
> Subject: [dundee] Re: any penguins in dundee?
> To: "Tayside Linux User Group" <dundee at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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> Ethical hacking, my arse!
>
> This is either a computer security course (but 4 years for
> Chrissakes!) ...or a course in network intrusion.  Personally, I can't
> see any academic relevance to this whatsoever - but I couldn't see the
> relevance of computer gaming either...
>
> In any event, I think we have a collective duty to object to the
> "academic" misuse of the H-word!
>
> rb
>
>
> On 23/08/06, Lee Hughes <toxicnaan at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > I'll be going to Abertay if I get accepted..the course is a new one..
> ;-)
> >
> > http://www.abertay.ac.uk/Courses/CDetails.cfm?CID=363&Key=002
> >
> > I'm looking for accomodation , hopefully with some other hackers, and a
> part
> > time jobs up there, I've got a CCNA n know 'things' about 'unix' and
> > 'networks' ;-).
> >
> > so if you people know of anything that I could get upto in conjuction
> with
> > my studies let me know. Obviously working with linux is my thing, but
> I'm
> > willing to go over to the dark side (windows) for earning extra beer
> > tokens!!.
> >
> > Where's a nice place to live in Dundee which is fairly close (cycling)
> > distance to abertay? Any advice would be most welcome , and I'll get you
> a
> > pint when we meet. :-).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lee
> >
> > Simon Wells <swells at computing.dundee.ac.uk> wrote: There are some but it
> has
> > been very quiet for the last year or so.
> > Will you be studying at Dundee or Abertay? What subject?
> >
> > Simon Wells
> >
> > email:  swells at computing.dundee.ac.uk
> > web:  http://www.computing.dundee.ac.uk/staff/swells/html/index.html
> > phone: (44) 01382-386-526
> > mail:  School Of Computing, University Of Dundee,Dundee,  DD1 4HN, U.K.
> >
> >
> > On 23 Aug 2006, at 02:24, Lee Hughes wrote:
> >
> > > Hiya,
> > > I might be comming to dundee to study is september, just wanted to
> > > know if there are any penguin people up there I could network with
> > > etc etc.
> > >
> > > I'm a gentoo user, do you hate me already? ;-)
> > >
> > > Just saying hello and stuff .... anyone around?
> > >
> > > so hello.
> > >
> > > Laters,
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all
> > > new Yahoo! Security Centre.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dundee GNU/Linux Users Group mailing list
> > > dundee at lists.lug.org.uk  http://dundee.lug.org.uk
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> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:28:35 +0100
> From: Andrew Clayton <andrew at digital-domain.net>
> Subject: Re: [dundee] Re: any penguins in dundee?
> To: Tayside Linux User Group <dundee at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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> On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:02:37 +0100, rb wrote:
>
> > Ethical hacking, my arse!
> >
> > This is either a computer security course (but 4 years for
> > Chrissakes!) ...or a course in network intrusion.  Personally, I can't
> > see any academic relevance to this whatsoever - but I couldn't see the
> > relevance of computer gaming either...
> >
> > In any event, I think we have a collective duty to object to the
> > "academic" misuse of the H-word!
>
> Seems a not unreasonable course. I'd use the term "White Hat" rather
> than ethical though.
>
> I think the damage is long done with the term *hacker* people will
> always relate it to badness.
>
>
> Andrew
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