[dundee] Arch linux

Nicholas Walker tel0seh at googlemail.com
Wed Aug 5 18:43:07 UTC 2009


I've noticed a big drop in the quality of the repositories since the last
release, packages being removed for seemingly no reason. pypanel is gone,
tint2 is gone, trayer is gone, and in order to get these, it's source or
other workaround (such as temporarily changing repos which i ahte since tis
very sloppy) but overalll i love the distro despite these little niggles.


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Iain Barnett <iainspeed at gmail.com> wrote:

> There's a lot of good things about Debian, but...
> mysql built from source doesn't work on Lenny, the binary doesn't work on
> Lenny, and the dpkg (which does work) installs exim and some MTA I don't
> want and don't need as depedencies. Wtf? The only reason I noticed exim was
> there was because I was playing around with 'top' and 'ps' the other day.
> Since the primary source of security holes on Windows was always the extra
> unneeded and unasked for services it set up, why is one of the most famous
> Linux distros doing the same with the most used OS database? *
> That was the last thing. I get some stupid niggle like that every day. Yes,
> it's very easy to apt-get remove exim... etc etc, but I find that sort of
> stuff mega sloppy.
> It's also because I've had to use it as a desktop, not just a server like
> usual, since the hard disk on my mac died (which has it's own ridiculous
> story), and it's just not in the same class as OSX for desktop stuff.
> Nothing is, IMO, but I even started hankering for Windows the other day.
> Iain
> *maybe SqlLite is top, but who's counting?
> 2009/8/5 Nicholas Walker <tel0seh at googlemail.com>
>
> what particular aspects of debian are hacking you off? I've just migrated
>> to debian myself, and I'm loving it. :D
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Iain Barnett <iainspeed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the questions will come when I try setting it up, I just wanted
>>> to make sure it wasn't one to avoid.
>>> I might give it a go this afternoon and see what's what.
>>>
>>> 2009/8/5 Huntly Cameron <huntly.cameron at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Sorry, forgot to add that I did try out some haskell tutorials and
>>>> eventually installed Xmonad on it and it worked with no problems but
>>>> am still not up to messing about with the config files... yet. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Huntly Cameron
>>>> e: huntly.cameron at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/8/5 Huntly Cameron <huntly.cameron at gmail.com>:
>>>> > 2009/8/5 Gordon <gicoupar at googlemail.com>:
>>>> >> It;s great if you're willing to put in the time to set it up which
>>>> I'm
>>>> >> assuming you probably will be.
>>>> >
>>>> > I would agree with Gordon.  It does take a fair bit of config work to
>>>> > get it all set up. But its a great wee system.  I've got it running on
>>>> > my laptop with the wmii WM.  The documentation on the arch wiki is
>>>> > also excellent and the forums are good too so if you do run into
>>>> > problems then they're easily fixed most of the time.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> >
>>>> > Huntly Cameron
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Nistur <nistur at googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Representin' for Arch Massiv!
>>>> >>> Anyway, I use arch and love it. Any particular questions about it?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Aug 5, 2009 1:32 PM, "Iain Barnett" <iainspeed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Was just wondering if anyone had tried out this disto? I'm getting a
>>>> >>> bit hacked off with certain aspects of Debian, and Arch seems to
>>>> >>> support Haskell quite strongly, so I'll probably give it a whirl
>>>> soon.
>>>> >>> If it's crap though, do say, and give my bank account a chance to
>>>> >>> level up with my swear box.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Iain
>>>> >>>
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