[ExeterLUG] Exeter Digest, Vol 72, Issue 6
Laura Freeman
laura.sj.freeman at gmail.com
Sat Mar 15 12:58:43 UTC 2014
I will be attending the Pi Jam next Saturday!
Yours sincerely,
*Laura Freeman*
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> 1. Schools/STEMnet/DBS checks [Re: Fwd: This Friday]
> (Gordon Henderson)
> 2. Re: Schools/STEMnet/DBS checks [Re: Fwd: This Friday]
> (Paul Sutton)
> 3. Pi jam Saturday 22nd (Paul Sutton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:27:58 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Gordon Henderson <gordon+lug at drogon.net>
> To: Exeter LUG Mailing List <exeter at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [ExeterLUG] Schools/STEMnet/DBS checks [Re: Fwd: This
> Friday]
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> On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Malcolm Dinsmore wrote:
>
> > Hi Gordon,
> >
> > I was talking to Julie Poynsenby from west exe school today, she
> > mentioned that one of the other teachers in west exe is hoping to do
> > some stuff with raspberry pi. Sorry I don't have any more details.?
> >
> > I know you are keen to do some stem stuff if you are happy to talk to
> > them, let me have an email address you'd like to be contacted on about
> > it. I'll put you in touch with her.?
>
> Just FYI, and for others on the list:
>
> As a STEMnet ambassador with a STEMnet issued DBS check, I would have to
> apply for another DBS check to do any voluntary work in any Devon County
> Council School.
>
> This applies to all STEMnet ambassadors with STEMnet issued DBS check
> certificates for all Devon county council schools.
>
> I have had this confirmed by Phil Barrett, Team Leader Safer Recruitment
> Service from Devon CC. (Who had never heard of STEMnet nor code club )-:
>
> I have asked STEMnet to look into this too.
>
> But DCCs stance is that the update service (which all STEMnet ambassadors
> were encouraged to subscribe to) is nine months out of date and therefore
> not acceptable for use in DCC. (I have asked the update service for
> clarification on this)
>
> If West Exe is an academy school then they may have their own guidelines,
> or they may simply defer back to DCCs rules. I'd need to know before going
> on-site.
>
> I've just been through all this with another school I had volunteered to
> help run code club with. Phil Barrett is adamant that I must re-submit the
> data for another DBS check, however it means that that school will have to
> pay for another DBS check for me.
>
> I have decided to refuse to go through the process again purely on the
> grounds of unnecessary bureaucracy. (I've held an enhanced CRB/DBS check
> certificates for the past 9 years so am hardly likely to fail - this is
> purely a stance against the bureaucracy)
>
> Gordon
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:44:06 +0000
> From: Paul Sutton <zleap at zleap.net>
> To: Exeter LUG Mailing List <exeter at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [ExeterLUG] Schools/STEMnet/DBS checks [Re: Fwd: This
> Friday]
> Message-ID: <5322F996.7040801 at zleap.net>
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> On 14/03/14 12:27, Gordon Henderson wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Malcolm Dinsmore wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Gordon,
> >>
> >> I was talking to Julie Poynsenby from west exe school today, she
> >> mentioned that one of the other teachers in west exe is hoping to do
> >> some stuff with raspberry pi. Sorry I don't have any more details.
> >>
> >> I know you are keen to do some stem stuff if you are happy to talk to
> >> them, let me have an email address you'd like to be contacted on
> >> about it. I'll put you in touch with her.
> >
> > Just FYI, and for others on the list:
> >
> > As a STEMnet ambassador with a STEMnet issued DBS check, I would have
> > to apply for another DBS check to do any voluntary work in any Devon
> > County Council School.
> >
> > This applies to all STEMnet ambassadors with STEMnet issued DBS check
> > certificates for all Devon county council schools.
> >
> > I have had this confirmed by Phil Barrett, Team Leader Safer
> > Recruitment Service from Devon CC. (Who had never heard of STEMnet nor
> > code club )-:
> >
> > I have asked STEMnet to look into this too.
> >
> > But DCCs stance is that the update service (which all STEMnet
> > ambassadors were encouraged to subscribe to) is nine months out of
> > date and therefore not acceptable for use in DCC. (I have asked the
> > update service for clarification on this)
> >
> > If West Exe is an academy school then they may have their own
> > guidelines, or they may simply defer back to DCCs rules. I'd need to
> > know before going on-site.
> >
> > I've just been through all this with another school I had volunteered
> > to help run code club with. Phil Barrett is adamant that I must
> > re-submit the data for another DBS check, however it means that that
> > school will have to pay for another DBS check for me.
> >
> > I have decided to refuse to go through the process again purely on the
> > grounds of unnecessary bureaucracy. (I've held an enhanced CRB/DBS
> > check certificates for the past 9 years so am hardly likely to fail -
> > this is purely a stance against the bureaucracy)
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> >
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> The whole point of the update service is that once you have a dbs cert
> for children workforce in this case you should NEVER need to apply for
> this again, partly as they can log in and see if anything has changed
> from when it was done, which is no different to going through the whole
> process again. As in it is designed to SAVE on paperwork. If
> something has changed then it is up to them if they ask for a whole new
> one, which they can do.
>
> DBS update service is as the name suggests to keep things up to date,
> why can't these jobsworths see that.
>
> Ah hang on, the idea of all this was also to bring some common sense in
> to the system, (that could explain things) the DBS spent a lot of time
> and money on this new system to make it easier for everyone.
>
> If you were being paid then then the DBS people charge you ?13 a year
> (which is not bad i think esp if you move around alot) , which would be
> a waste of money if no one is using the service properly, me of the info
> printed out here, it is pretty clear in both the document for the
> applicant and the employer.
>
> I suspect that all the are doing is keeping a few jobsworths in a job,
>
> End of the day its is Their LOSS here eh.
>
> I agree with your stance on this, btw.
>
> Paul
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> --
> web : http://www.zleap.net
> twitter : @zleap14
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911
>
> Torbay Raspberry Pi Jam, 12th April 2014 -
> http://dcglug.drogon.net/torbay-pi-jam/
>
> I am committed to safeguarding children, young people and vulnerable
> groups and expect any school or establishment I am involved with to share
> this commitment.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:42:27 +0000
> From: Paul Sutton <zleap at zleap.net>
> To: list at dcglug.org.uk, Exeter LUG Mailing List
> <exeter at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [ExeterLUG] Pi jam Saturday 22nd
> Message-ID: <532369B3.3000203 at zleap.net>
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>
> Hi
>
> Anyone planning on attending the Raspberry pi jam in Exeter on March 22nd ?
>
> Paul
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> --
> web : http://www.zleap.net
> twitter : @zleap14
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911
>
> Torbay Raspberry Pi Jam, 12th April 2014 -
> http://dcglug.drogon.net/torbay-pi-jam/
>
> I am committed to safeguarding children, young people and vulnerable
> groups and expect any school or establishment I am involved with to share
> this commitment.
>
>
>
>
>
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