[Glastonbury] broadband

[Jordan Elver]

On Thursday 20 November 2003 21:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:49:35PM +0000, Jordan Elver wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 November 2003 21:33, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Kelvin McNulty wrote:
> > > > This web site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ipcop.org
> > > >
> > > > is of interest to anyone who wants to set up a firewall for use on
> > > > broadband.
> > > >
> > > > Or anyone who wants to run Linux on one of those proverbial out of
> > > > date boxes.
> > > >
> > > > They do a version of Linux that will run on a 486 or even a 386 box.
> > >
> > > Yes, Kelvin.
> > >
> > > But have you actually tried doing it?
> >
> > Try smoothwall.org. I've been running various versions for a couple of
> > years. Very professional IMHO.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jordan
>
> Be aware: IPCop is a fork of Smoothwall because Smoothwall were being
> difficult about GPL IIRC. [Smoothwall've since gone on to produce an
> expensive "commercial" firewall]

Well, I don't have the full facts about the GPL stuff, but I hear that there 
comemrcial product is very good :)

> The Smoothwall folk also have a reputation for abruptness bordering on
> outright rudeness and have displayed contempt for new users in my
> (limited) experience.

I think you'll find that this was one particular member (co-founder) of the 
original team, now left,  who regualry slags off the current Smoothwall team. 
Obviously some sort of fall-out there ;)

But, I have used both and know that Smoothwall was a more usable product in my 
opinion. Although, I think IPCop may have some features that Smoothwall does 
not, but they are not as quick about releasing patches for exploits etc as 
Smoothwall and I think that has to be a priority, just by looking at my IDS 
logs ;)

Cheers,
Jordan