[members at lugog] Introduction:

stoker stoker at headweb.co.uk
Thu Nov 25 19:25:50 UTC 2010


On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:43:49 +0000, Damian <myth at surr.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25/11/2010 12:00, glastonbury-request at mailman.lug.org.uk wrote:
>> It goes back to when *buntu first came on the scene and lots of people
>> I knew who had been staunch Debian users abandoned it for *buntu for
>> no apparent reason. I still don't understand why they did so as
>> *buntu didn't seem to offer any benefits over Debian or any of the
>> other offshoots at the time.
> I think one of the main reason lots of people went to Ubuntu was because

> lots of people went to Ubuntu!

that was a factor, no doubt .

> 
> There was suddenly one distro with a huge user base that was trying it's

> best to be a purely GUI experience.
> 
> Also, Linux had been getting better and better for years, but I never 
> stayed with any version because they were just too geeky. In Windows, I 
> considered myself a geek. If anyone had a Windows problem, I was the one

> they called on to fix it. In Linux, that was out of the water. Anything 
> that went wrong needed the command line. And what do you put into the 
> command line? Who knows! It's all very simple when you know how, but 
> mind bogglingly impossible when you don't. Your average geek doesn't 
> mind poking around a system to tweek this and that, but having to user 
> the command line for everything was just too much.
> 

> I use the command line a fair bit now, but the less it's 'needed' the 
> better *IF* the end goal is to compete with Windows.

Exactly my thoughts, if only because windows command line is redunudant
pretty much except for specialized tasks, 

 If that's not the 
> end goal, then the uber-geeks can keep happy on the command line. 
> There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but that's never going to 
> impact on Windows. No one wants to 'upgrade' to an OS where they will 
> need more support than they used to, what's the point of that?
> 

no point at all...


> Replacing Windows isn't my end goal. I just like the feel of good open 
> source software and while ever the work involved in using that is within

> my available time and capabilities I will stick with it. I've had a 
> MythTV home cinema system for years now, but a couple of times with a 
> couple of the really nasty problems that have taken weeks of forum 
> support to iron out, I have been VERY close to packing it all in and 
> installing Windows media centre. Why, because for £XX I can get a system

> that pretty much just works, and the bits that don't are well within my 
> grasp to fix. I'm getting to that point with Ubuntu now. I'm sure the 
> other distros have caught up in terms of 'GUI for everything' and the 
> end user in mind, but I certainly think that Ubuntu lead the way and it 
> was a very important growth for Linux as a whole.
> 
> My god, that turned into a rant! Who's side am I on?
> 

After that, I'm not sure......lol however your persistance with myth tv is
admirable....

> The main point I was wanting to make was the first one. Suddenly there 
> was one distro with a huge user base rather than hundreds of distros 
> (way too much chose for someone starting with little/no knowledge) with 
> much smaller user bases.
> 
> Back in my box.
> 
> Cheers all
> Damian
> 
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