http://www.digitalisland.net/codered/ Wealth of information. And they had a chap on "Today" at about 8:50am saying that the media have generated hype, including.... the BBC itself:-) Gordo -- Gordon Joly////////// gordon.joly at pobox.com http://pobox.com/~or/ -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug