[Gllug] HTML editors

Bruce Richardson itsbruce at uklinux.net
Tue Dec 18 13:37:42 UTC 2001


On 12/18/01, 12:58:25 PM, "Paul Brazier" <pbrazier at cosmos-uk.co.uk> wrote 
regarding RE: [Gllug] HTML editors :


> I do use vi for simple editing of config files but I don't find the
> interface very user-friendly.
> I think it must have been designed when keyboards didn't have arrow
> keys, numeric keypads or function keys. I use an MS environment at work
> and I find 99% of what I use is Ctrl/Shirt and the arrow keys for
> highlighting, then Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V to cut and paste. In vi I find this
> sort of thing very complicated. I've worked out that to copy a few lines
> I do something like ":.,.+3t+4" but I've still not found an easy way to
> copy and paste an arbitrary few words. Even the help system itself is
> difficult to use. Maybe it can be customised to behave like Notepad but
> using it is difficult enough let alone programming it.

> I do like the menu bar paradigm as it means you can easily start using
> something then use the keyboard shortcuts as you pick them up.

> Maybe vi is used more for historical then logical reasons?

I am a touch typist who hates having to reach for the mouse or function 
keys or anything other than qwerty and meta keys.  Using Vi/Vim makes me 
much faster and more productive.  The edit/command mode switching takes a 
while to get used to but the bonus is all those single-keypress commands 
(and most other commands being a keypress lighter than they would be in a 
non-modal editor).

> I have heard Jed is a more user-friendly version of vi so I'll give this
> a try for remote ssh editing but I think X-based apps are the way to go
> for desktop editing.

Back when I was using Gnome as my desktop I had Vim as my default editor 
and Mutt as my default mail client.  It didn't feel strange and worked 
well.  You don't have to go all one way or all the other (even if my 
current wm of choice is essentially a way to run loads of xterms).

-- 

Bruce

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