[Gllug] Windows -> Linux

[Simon Stewart]

On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:03:08PM +0000, Nix wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Simon Stewart spake:
> > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:57:58PM +0000, Nix wrote:
> >> Thus speaks someone who hasn't seen Galeon-1.0. 
> > 
> > Not so, I've used galeon quite a lot and love it to bits. Perhaps you
> > haven't had a chance to use Konqi with the KMozilla KPart? :) In any
> 
> I ran some bits of KDE once and decided that I simply couldn't abide the
> look and behaviour of the widget set. It looks like someone's gone mad
> while holding too many crayons and on psychedelic drugs :(
> 
> YMMV, of course... but Qt is a widget set too far for
> me. Horrible-looking, relies on fragile *and unnecessary* C++ language
> extensions implemented using a somewhat dysfunctional preprocessor...

Well, both QT and Gtk are themable, so the "horrible-looking" argument
is slightly specious. You're right, the signals and slots mechanism
isn't the world's most elegant *shrugs*

> > konqueror as a file manager can be almost pleasurable. This is partly
> > because of the way that the KDE has abstracted IO into the KIOSlaves,
> > and so I can use the same interface to manage files over FTP, SSH, or on
> > the local file system, to name but a few of the available plugins. Not
> 
> Likewise Nautilus and gnome-vfs --- or, at least, this will be true in
> time; right now -vfs and Nautilus are playing catch-up with each
> other. They're resynchronizing in GNOME 2 and should end up duplicating
> less of each other's functionality :)

Is that use of gnome-vfs pervasive? One of the cutest features of KDE
is that I can type a URL into any file dialog box in any KDE program
and it'll work as expected. If it is, I might reload Gnome and see
whether it's any better from when I last played with it. IME, it
seemed more like a collection of disparate parts rather than an
integrated whole, and it felt very unstable. Might wait until Gnome 2
is out though.

> > Pick one. Stick with it. A QT version of Evolution sounds like a nice
> > idea *drh*[1]
> 
> Oh, great. Make it even *more* bloated. ;)
> 
> No chance, I'd say; Evolution is really tightly tied to Gnome. Only
> Nautilus is more tied. Both are pushing features into gnome-libs,
> bonobo, gnome-vfs and so on and finding bugs in it at a considerable
> rate; there are even two libraries (eel and gal) that consist of little
> more than `stuff gnumeric, evolution, and nautilus originated that
> should be in gnome-libs, and will move in in 2.something.'

I'd have expected that much. Evolution looks like quite a nice toy,
and I know it comes recommended on the list. Will have to download and
play with it, though I suspect that mutt will still be my MUA of
choice

Sometime in 2000, wasn't there talk about KParts and Bonobo being
integrated? That appears to have petered out, which is a pity, but Nix
will prolly know more about it than I do.

Cheers,

Simon

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