[Gllug] Website developement

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Alex Hudson gibbered:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
>> its a write only language! Horibble! Give me C or Java or LISP any
>> day!
> 
> Perl is higher level than both C and Java, probably also Lisp

That you say this indicates either that you do not know anything about
Lisp, or, perhaps, that you don't know what the phrase `higher level'
means :(

> experience of Scheme). Perl comes with masses of fantastic libraries. perl

So do many Lisp implementations. (Perl's extensions system *is* good,
though.)

>                                                         And, Perl 6 will
> rock. Don't cuss it until you've realised you're wrong :P

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. I'm sure Skud and the
rest of the language design people will try hard to ensure that it will
rock, but you can't *know* that until after it's released.

> BTW - back on topic - web design comes down to two schools of thought. The
> first is separate presentation from content, which is where templates (et

This is, of course, the only sane way.

> for small sites (it's boring as hell). The other one is to not separate
> presentation from content - this is called design, is bloody hard work,

... because you are fighting the design of HTML all the way...

> but gives the best results.

... that is, it can look nice on totally broken browsers like Netscape 4
and IE3, but can't change its appearance to compensate for variations in
browser capability, is very hard to do, and is generally a Bad Idea.

>                             Most small sites are somewhere in between.

Everything I produce is designed properly. I can't see the point in
going through endless agony to compensate for browsers with no style
sheet support; they get a really plain look and have to live with it.

-- 
`I'm not sure whether libtool is an existence proof that you _can_
 write a shell script that handles its arguments correctly, or a
 demonstration that you may try but you are doomed to failure.'
                                                       -- Zack Weinberg


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