[Gllug] Gates preaches to the NHS converted

[David Irvine]

On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 18:58, Jim Bailey wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> once again M$ shows why it is number 1 in the the software stakes, it 
> knows how to sell.
> 
> Rather than nashing and grinding of teeth in the wilderness isn't there 
> anybody out there with the understanding and experience in this sort of 
> work to at least give The NHS a written alternative to the .NET solution 
> and give these non technical managers some ammunition eg.
> 
> I understand Mr Gates the need for M$ on the desktop given issues of user 
> familiarity with your GUI and the associated costs of retraining but could 
> you explain to me why we should pay for NT server solutions and the 
> associated client side costs?
> 
> I understand that Office XP is the most advanced productivity suite on the 
> market but could you prove to me that it is cheaper to use it rather than 
> a team of software developer working on Openoffice to increase its 
> functionality and the cost being shared across the NHS or even europe.
> 
> Demand that your health service justify spending on these solutions 
> compared to an alternative.
> 
> This meeting is either a cosy stitch up in which case it is a scandal and 
> we should scream blue murder until enough of the general public understand 
> what is going on or M$ are making a genuine sales pitch to the NHS in 
> which case the alternatives should also be heard.
> 

I think you mean screen blue murder :D


All joking aside its a shame that no linuxy companies have done anything
like this, the same goes for in education, my mum's school just got
their new super improved multimedia server in  last week and its shi*e. 
The equipment has way too  much bloat. If it was running linux it would
be at  least able to 'serve' most of the time it just sits dorment in
the corner,  and not only that. The cost saving  of not paying for an ms
license could mean the pupils actually get books to read.

Oh well.

David


> Peace Jim
> 
> On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 05:14 PM, will wrote:
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Irvine" <co2cool at yahoo.com>
> > To: <gllug at linux.co.uk>
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Gllug] Gates preaches to the NHS converted
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 16:15, Christian Smith wrote:
> >>> On 19 Nov 2001, John Hearns wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I just know that I shouldn't read these things.
> >>>> I'm now going to lie down in a darkened room with
> >>>> a towel over my head for an hour.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/22918.html
> >>>
> >>>> From the CW article cited in the piece:
> >>> According to Jenny Duff, public sector industry manager at Microsoft,
> > the
> >>
> >> aim is "to get chief executives* involved in the implementation of IT and
> >>
> >> * read: easily conned, <Insert similar comment here>
> >>
> >> very scary indeed.
> >
> > This is why our sales team sell mostly windows products, they don't
> > understand what the are selling 99% of the time but they have 'heard' of
> > windows so they try and sell that more.  We used to sell win2k hosting 
> > plans
> > hidden away on our website and only if people asked for them directly.  We
> > didn't sell that many.
> >
> > Now the win2k option is right under the unix option and we sell more win2k
> > because people have 'heard' of win2k and not linux.  Gates wants managers
> > involved because they will go with what they are familiar with.
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
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