[Gllug] Evolution won't fetch my mail (Help)
Nix
nix at esperi.demon.co.uk
Thu Aug 8 19:18:42 UTC 2002
On 08 Aug 2002, Chris Ball said:
>>>> On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:42:18 +0100, Tethys <tet at accucard.com> said:
>
> Tet> I wonder... is it possible to use the emacs lisp interpreter
> Tet> without the overhead of the emacs editor?
>
> This is present in the Emacs distribution, as `temacs'. It's the Emacs
> Lisp interpreter and I/O routines without the editor, and it's used to
> build the Emacs executable itself at compile-time.
In fact, not only does it lack the editor but most of the runtime as well.
You'd do well to modify loadup.el to not load the various editish things
in, and dump *that*.
--- but the result wouldn't be very nice, bceause it would be
noninteractive; and a Lisp with no read-eval-print loop doesn't really
count as a full-fledged Lisp in my book ;}
> Tet> Now *that* would be a product worth having.
>
> I don't see why. Common Lisp and Scheme compilers are both available,
> and both languages are ``considered'' far more pleasant than Emacs Lisp.
Yes: elisp is very nasty as Lisps go. MacLisp is, well, old hat.
> In fact, there's usually at least one person at a time out there trying
> to port Emacs from Emacs Lisp to Common Lisp..
Actually, it's XEmacs that has CL as a pie-in-the-sky objective: GNU
Emacs is aiming for a (very lightly modified) Scheme.
Given the rate both pie-in-the-sky projects are moving I expect to see
them both by about the year 3500.
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