[Gllug] Evolution won't fetch my mail (Help)

Nix nix at esperi.demon.co.uk
Thu Aug 8 19:18:42 UTC 2002


On 08 Aug 2002, Chris Ball said:
>>>> On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:42:18 +0100, Tethys <tet at accucard.com> said:
> 
>    Tet> I wonder... is it possible to use the emacs lisp interpreter
>    Tet> without the overhead of the emacs editor? 
> 
> This is present in the Emacs distribution, as `temacs'.  It's the Emacs
> Lisp interpreter and I/O routines without the editor, and it's used to
> build the Emacs executable itself at compile-time.

In fact, not only does it lack the editor but most of the runtime as well.

You'd do well to modify loadup.el to not load the various editish things
in, and dump *that*.

--- but the result wouldn't be very nice, bceause it would be
noninteractive; and a Lisp with no read-eval-print loop doesn't really
count as a full-fledged Lisp in my book ;}

>    Tet> Now *that* would be a  product worth having. 
> 
> I don't see why.  Common Lisp and Scheme compilers are both available,
> and both languages are ``considered'' far more pleasant than Emacs Lisp.

Yes: elisp is very nasty as Lisps go. MacLisp is, well, old hat.

> In fact, there's usually at least one person at a time out there trying
> to port Emacs from Emacs Lisp to Common Lisp..

Actually, it's XEmacs that has CL as a pie-in-the-sky objective: GNU
Emacs is aiming for a (very lightly modified) Scheme.

Given the rate both pie-in-the-sky projects are moving I expect to see
them both by about the year 3500.

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