[Gllug] Debian gateways

[Formi]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Ian Norton wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:36:08AM +0000, Formi wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Axel Segebrecht wrote:
> >  Are you aware of the mdk urpm* utilities, they are wrappers around rpm,
> >  that will solve package dependencies, download from ftp, nfs, ...
> >
> >  I have been using them a lot lately with a couple of minor glitches.
> >
> >                                         Formi.
>
> yeah but rpm tends to screw the idea of dependancies, i suppose urpm is the
> same kind of idea as apt, mandrake seem to be putting its little druid wrappers
> around everything. the moment you do something like edit rc.firewall on
> mandrake there is little point in keeping with any of the mandrake updates
> after that cos it will nuke things,
>
> i have come to the conclusion that if it turns out you need to do any
> 'moderatly advanced' modifications to say init scripts or iptables after a
> mandrake 8.1 install then you will be screwed sideways but mandake if you do it
> then even run linuxconf,


 Yeap, I know that, I actually do not touch any of the graphical druids,
 and I have disabled most of the "maintanance cron jobs".

 The software manager tends to screw up from time to time, even though it
 is only a front end for the urpm* utilities, just avoiding it keeps
 things tidy.

 About iptables, Bastille takes care of it.

>
> mandrake 7.0 was very good imo, my firewall runs mandrake 7.0, although its rpm
> database is screwed (glibc upgrade did it), (so i compile from source now) it has 2.4.17 kernel, hmm, actually, i bet there is nothing much left of its original mandrake 7.0,
>
> recently i am of the opinion that mandrake now sucks as much as redhat, debian
> forever!
>
> :-)
>
> bred
>
>


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