Offtopic - Re: [Gllug] Geforce2

Roger Wernersson roger at elixir-studios.co.uk
Tue Jan 29 10:41:39 UTC 2002


I'm from Sweden and was a bit happier paying taxes there. I'm not that
happy now when my current tax payments fund nuclear weapons among other
things.

I realise voting wont make a major change, but I'm happy if it keeps the
conservatives at bay. Real changes always starts outside parliament. I'm
all for direct action and NGO:s.

/Roger, organised

Vincent AE Scott wrote:
> 
> Roger Wernersson(roger at elixir-studios.co.uk)@Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 10:10:27AM +0000:
> > I suppose you walk on the grass, not on the sidewalks. I guess you
> > didn't go to school. You might even have been born at home and not on a
> > hospital.
> 
> thats my first funny thought for the day!
> thank you.
> 
> 
> > But for my own part I know that several of my friends would have been
> > dead, even more disabled, and practically none of them litterate had it
> > not been for public funding.
> 
> ah, but is there not a possibility that you could (and your friends)
> atually be better off under an alternative social regime?  Without
> actually having witnessed what future oppoutunities there might be, how
> can you be sure those people with disabilities wouldnt have been better
> off?  perhaps treated as equals to everyone else?  At the end of the day
> the funding may allow them more freedoms, but do some people still look
> down at them in the street?
> 
> in order to design a new society, i think you have to throw away
> everything you already know, apart from a afew core idioms.  like, life
> is precious.
> 
> >
> > /Roger, glad to pay taxes
> 
> i'd be happier if my taxes went towards things i thought more important.
> it did annoy me, that my tax moola dropped a nipple on greenwich, when
> there's homeless people living in london.
> 
> >
> > William Palfreman wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Kieran wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, William Palfreman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The reason not to vote is because it is a fraud, perpertrated by people
> > > > > who've made stealing from you into a profitable business.  Voting implies
> > > > > you accept the rules and will accept the result.  I don't.
> > > > >
> > > > Am I being trolled?  I think you should say what you really think.
> > >
> > > No, of course not.  That is what I really think.
> > >
> > > > What do you propose as better?
> > >
> > > Nothing.  Not voting and not having the results of voting.  People not
> > > being able to vote to take things of me or make things I do illegal on
> > > spec.  Done a tape backup recently?  These days I risk imprisonment if
> > > tape backups I do at work aren't availble for the next 7 years.  It isn't
> > > just that.  These elected people don't do a single thing for me, or at
> > > least not a single thing that I wouldn't rather sort out for myself on my
> > > terms.  Even if I did get something out of it it is still a useless
> > > burden of a way to live.  Generations grow up thinking of these people as
> > > a wierd parent figure, which they love all the more the more abusive it
> > > gets to them.  I don't have any control on them, they don't do anything
> > > for me apart from taking money off me and passing laws against things I
> > > like doing, and they don't even make any effort to do anything useful to
> > > me.  I quit.
> > >
> > > --
> > > William Palfreman
> > >
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