[Gllug] Volunteers needed for Install Fest

[Xander D Harkness]

Martyn Drake wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:09:50 +0100 Tethys wrote:
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>>:-) FWIW, I think you have a right to be proud of your products, but I
>>think you've really screwed up with RH8. I don't care about the
>>removal of MP3 players (all my music is in Ogg Vorbis anyway :-). But
>>Bluecurve is a horrible mistake -- not the concept, mind. I think
>>having a common look and feel to the desktop is a great idea. But why
>>did you have to make it so *ugly*? MS may have made XP look like it's
>>made of playdoh, but there was no need for RH to follow suit!
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I personally quite like the look and feel.  The tight integration of 
Nautilus into the RH8 gnome desktop has made me switch from gnome to KDE 
as my desktop for the first time in ages.  

I always had problems with KDE sound using Red Hat; there were frequenly 
hisses and pops.  In additionKDE seems to be much more stable than 
previous versions.  I still frequently get KDE applications closing 
ungracefully

>It's still early days for this sort of thing - and besides which I think
>it's a pretty damn good for a first time effort at Linux desktop
>unification.  As for MP3 players - XMMS is still included within the
>distribution, I believe.  My only real complaint with Red Hat 8.0 is
>that the Display application is buggy, and Nautilus is still a pig. 
>Even on my home Pentium IV 1.7Ghz box with 1Gb RAM, it still feels so
>ruddy slow.
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Again, I think that as a file manager Nautilus has a long way to go 
before being usable for me.  The tree view does not follow and has no 
option to be on by default.  The file / application association with 
Nautilus also seems overly cumbersome.

>If it's a step closer to getting more people switching over to Linux,
>then surely this is not a bad thing?  I'm sure with more feedback and
>prodding from the Linux community, Red Hat will incorporate the missing
>stuff from this release into the next.  However, who can say?
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I have had windows users ask if they could have it on their computer 
rather than windows ;-)

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>>And of course, the removal of half of the programs I use on a daily
>>basis(fvwm2, rxvt, ical) didn't help, either...
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>:(  I do agree that this is a bad thing(tm).
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Not using apt-get and synaptic from freshprms.net as my primary 
installation manager.  It seems relatively easy to build new 
repositories too.  I hope that these will become much more frequent.  A 
good cross with Debian:  Red Hat's hardware recognition routines with 
something closer to Debians package management.

Kind regards
Xander

-- 
A true artist will let his wife starve, his children go barefoot, his mother
drudge for his living at seventy, sooner than work at anything but his art.
		-- Shaw



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