Thanks everyone who replied. I think we've found somewhere now. The only thing I can't work out is what the ISP who provide our leased lines were thinking. Their setup fee (just to plug in a box that we would supply) was around £1000. -- load "vmlinux.el",8,1 -Anth -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug