[Gllug] Cyclists (off topic)

[Mark Lowes]

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 12:40, Stephen Harker wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 10:14, Mark Lowes wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:02, Xander D Harkness wrote:
> > > coming back to my email where I suggested that pedestrians have a
> > > identification plate attached to their back.  This might be a better
> >
> > How would this idea help a friend of my who was knocked over[1] by a
> > cyclist going the wrong way down a one-way street.  Naturally the prat
> > didn't stop to see if she was ok and continued on his merry way.
> 
> WRONG!
>
> The reason why the guy didn't stop to see if she was OK was because he was a 
> prat as you said not because he was a cyclist. He could just as easily have 
> knocked into her whilst running on foot and not stopped.

Agreed, however it continues to highlight the fact that there are a
non-trivial number of cyclists[1] (and I'll actually include motor
cyclists in this) who believe that the road rules do not apply and that
"no entry" and "one way" signs are for motorists and that red lights are
something to be avoided.

However I can bet that the same people who have claimed that jumping a
redlight on a bike is ok will scream blue bloody murder if they saw a
motorist doing the same.

> > Cyclists (like their motorised friends who jump
> > red lights and ignore signs) are inconsiderate morons who should be
> > removed from the road as quickly as possible.
> 
> NO! NO! NO!
> 
> Inconsiderate morons are inconsiderate morons. Some ride bikes, some drive 
> cars and some populate mailing lists but it doesn't follow that all cyclists, 
> motorists or whatever are inconsideerate morons just because some behave that 

I think you've misinterpreted me as wanting all cyclists removed from
the road, this is false.  However getting the morons off the road who
think that the rules don't apply to them would reduce the number of
accidents by far more than any other approach.

> way. Honestly are you just trolling or what?

No I'm annoyed by the attitude some on the list are giving that the road
rules don't apply to them as cyclists.  As someone who takes _great_
care to give cyclists the room they need and not to crowd them it's a
right royal pisser to see a group of them crapping on the rest of us.

The roads are a shared medium, there are rules and guidelines out there
to try and limit the harm each group can do to the other.  Much like the
net, it's also a shared medium with a group of morons who think that the
rules and guidelines on how not to piss people off don't apply to them.

   Mark

[1] Motorists are as bad in many ways however two wheeled vehicles can
    abuse the road rules in ways which are next to impossible for those
    in four or more wheels.

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