[Gllug] Re: OT: Copyright and Snow Balls

[Josef Davies-Coates]

As Larry Lessig warns in his Free Culture presentation, NEVER have FEWER people controlled MORE of
the evolution of our culture (through copyrights and patents etc.).

The future alway builds on the past.  IMHO, Idea's, Software and Snowballs should NEVER be
copyrighted or patented.  Information wants to be free.

Check out Larry's excellent OSCON 02 flash presentation via
http://wiki.uniteddiversity.com/flash_presentations.  Essential viewing (IMHO)

Peace,

Josef.

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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:03:46 +0100 (CET)
> From: John Hearns <john.hearns at clustervision.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] Mozilla Address Book
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at linux.co.uk>
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> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Simon Morris wrote:
> 
> 
>>Then I reckon getting a OpenLDAP server setup with a nice frontend like
>>LABE (LDAP addressbook editor) is the way to go.
>>
> 
> That's an interesting application.
> It wasn't around last time I was looking at LDAP browsers.
> 
> Can anyone say if it can also go into other parts of the schema -ie.
> is it set up solely for people (inteorg things).
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> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:16:09 -0000 (GMT)
> From: <andy at mac1systems.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] OT: Copyright and Snow Balls
> To: <gllug at linux.co.uk>
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> 
>>>I'm sorry, but when was it that copyright started applying to ideas,
>>>rather than the literal printed word?
>>
> Having seen the advert and the original image it is almost exactly the same.
> 
> Both feature a large (1 metre) snowball.  The orignal had bits of natural
> wood sticking out.  The copy had Habitat furniture sticking out.  If you
> knew the original artwork then you would definately had recognised it and
> assumed the artist was involved.
> 
> I think the "artist" was more upset that people would think he was
> associated with Habitat than the copying thing.
> 
> So it wasn't the "idea" so much that was copyrighted it was the image.
> If it was a song and Habitat had changed some of the words then I guess the
> musician would have been rightly paid?
> 
> Andy
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:18:31 +0000
> From: mimo <mimo at restoel.net>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] openMosix
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at linux.co.uk>
> Message-ID: <3FCB3197.4090505 at restoel.net>
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> Thanks John for taking time to reply and inform me about all this. 
> Actually, I sent this to the wrong list in the first place. I wanted to 
> write to debian-isp... :)
> Shame I missed your talk. I am quite interested. We are running a few 
> servers and sometimes experience the typical peak problems. Now, adding 
> machines, upgrading machines, etc. is always a hassle. So when I started 
> reading about openMosix I was quite interested as it remembered me of 
> the google cluster model. Or what is reported to be what google are 
> doing. I'll have a look at that URL you sent me.
> Again, thanks a lot.
> 
> mimo
> 
> John Hearns wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 17:35, mimo wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>>I would be interested if anyone is running this 
>>>(http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/). I have googled a bit but couldnt 
>>>find any real world reports esp. in ISP environments (mail and web).
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>
>>For ISP type things, you might also be interested in high availability
>>clustering.
>>http://www.linux-ha.org/
>>
>>
>>Pity you missed my GLLUG talk on clustering earlier this year!
>>As I said in the talk, there are three types of clusters:
>>
>>
>>Parallel (running MPI or PVM parallel codes)
>>
>>High Throughput (COWs  - clusters of workstations)
>>
>>High Availability (handshaking and failover)
>>
>>
>>IMHO, the bulk of scientific and industrial computation is done
>>on High Throughput clusters, on embarasingly parallel applications.
>>This is where its important to keep the nodes busy as possible,
>>not only to have peak performance for parallel programs.
>>Applications to think of are graphics rendering (frame parallel),
>>high energy physics (event parallel), oil and gas etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I suppose the Mosix and Scyld Single System Image clusters don't map
>>well to these three (oops).
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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> 
> 

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