[Gllug] Regarding priracy (sic)

chris.wareham at btopenworld.com chris.wareham at btopenworld.com
Wed Mar 5 12:17:20 UTC 2003


Doug Winter <doug at pigeonhold.com> wrote:
> 
> Chris Wareham wrote:
> > The anti-copyright mob claim that because they can copy something, that
> > those who try and stop them are "profit grabbing bastards". Nope. Think
> > about music, something that I have a considerable involvement in. I pay
> > for my equipment. I pay for rehearsal time. I pay for recording and I
> > get nothing for distribution. Now you come along and think "I've read
> > that all data should be free, I'm unable or unwilling to satisfy my own
> > musical needs but I can copy someone elses music". If I have explicitly
> > said "you can copy my music freely", then that's not a problem. But what
> > is happening with music is that people are copying it regardless of the
> > creators wishes just because they can, and then coming up with ludicrous
> > justifications.
> 
> I think the anti-copyright mob would assert that it isn't "your" music,
> you merely created it.  The claim that creation engenders ownership is
> the crux of the moral case for copyright.  That has as many problems as
> theories of ownership in meatspace.
> 

That's the same as saying that the house you live in isn't yours, so I
can move in and tell you to like it or leave. In fact taking the
anti-copyright stance to its ridiculous extreme (which the Coca-Cola
example already did), I could argue I've got even more right to use your
house as you probably didn't build it.

Just because music or software appears ephemeral doesn't mean it
shouldn't have the same intrinsic value as your house. If you want to
allow anyone to live in your house without paying, then fine. The same
logic applies to my music and the software I write. If you want us all
to live in a copyright free, propertyless society then show me an
example of an Anarchist society that works (they never do for more than
a very short amount of time, as human nature and Michel's Iron Law of
Oligarchy soon kick in).

Anyway I've made my stance pretty clear, and any further clarification
is just going to add to the dismal amount of noise on this list.

Chris

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