Re backups to the network drive: Have you considered "tar'ing" your files to the raw backup-disc device name, in a similar manner to tar'ing to a raw floppy ?? This method certainly works with Unix, and so should I think work with linux Tim -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at gllug.org.uk http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug