[Gllug] Re: Gllug Digest, Vol 8, Issue 43

Michael Jenson mirojrsc at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Feb 16 11:36:30 UTC 2004


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>    1. Re: PC World, was Re: [Gllug] SCO Stuff (Mamading Ceesay)
>    2. Re: Basic Firewall Policy (Wayne Clancy)
>    3. Re: Help ! Problem after installing RedHat Linux9.0 (gaurav verma)
>    4. Re: How to access files on Win platform through Linux
>       (Richard Huxton)
>    5. Re: London Connects (Christopher Hunter)
>    6. Re: Open Forum (Rev Simon Rumble)
>    7. Re: Open Forum (Doug Winter)
>    8. Re: smbpasswd change (Henrik Morsing)
>    9. Re: Rejecting mail at backup MX (Nix)
>   10. logitec usb headset freezes mandrake 9.2 (Will Napier)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:07:45 +0000
> From: Mamading Ceesay <evangineer at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: PC World, was Re: [Gllug] SCO Stuff
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <20040213160745.21810fd2 at sothis.evangineer>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 19:22:17 +0000
> Christopher Hunter <chrisehunter at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > They have a penchant for selling returned equipment as "new" - a
> > colleague of mine had to buy a laptop from them last year, and found
> > that the 30 Gb HDD had 26 Gb used, with personal documents, emails,
> > webcache files and so on from its previous owner!   (His Insurance
> > company would only allow him to buy his replacement laptop there -
> > he's since changed his insurance company).
> > 
> > The previous owner (who, it transpired had returned the thing as
> > "faulty") was a well-known East London female Labour MP, and some of
> > the contents of the HDD proved very interesting to folks at certain
> > satirical magazines!  It had been returned because it was infected
> > with a variant of the "blaster" virus....
> > 
> 
> Living in East London, I can make a good guess as to which MP and I
> would have loved to get my hands on the contents of the HDD.  I'm not
> generally into mischief-making, but I can make an exception for
> deserving individuals.
> 
> -- 
> Mamading Ceesay - SCO delenda est! - http://www.scocountdown.com
> Essential reading for all computer users: 
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/%7Erja14/tcpa-faq.htm
> http://www.fipr.org/intellectual.html
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:44:04 +0000
> From: Wayne Clancy <wclancy at irisfinancial.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] Basic Firewall Policy
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <402CE2B4.4050408 at irisfinancial.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> "A simple 1 ip-address setup and a free USB ADSL modem is not ideal for 
> this to be secure."
> 
> What's wrong with NAT and port forwarding  required service's.
> 
> You could always take a look at IPcop firewall/router/VPN 
> (http://www.ipcop.com) and run a gateway on a old machine. IPcop is 
> perfect with 1 IP and a free USB ADSL router 
> 
> 
> Mark Preston wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Harry Mantheakis wrote:
> >
> >> / I know that implementing computer security is, like home security, an
> >
> > />/ exercise in judging which risks are acceptable, and which are not.
> > />/ />/ The problem is, I have no idea how to make that judgement with 
> > computers!
> > />/ />/ So my question is: what would you consider to be the *basic* 
> > and *essential*
> > />/ steps to take in respect of setting up a firewall?/
> >
> >
> >
> > To be secure, if you are hosting a service which is to be made 
> > available outside of you small home network, such as HTTP, I believe 
> > you would benefit by having static IP-addresses, with Four allocated 
> > addresses (two usable). A simple 1 ip-address setup and a free USB 
> > ADSL modem is not ideal for this to be secure.
> > ukfsn.org offers this option , as do many other ISPs.
> >
> > Go to http://www.ossi.co.uk/ and click on Magazine and then Linux 
> > Firewalling for a fairly detailed article which you might find useful.
> > Regards,
> > Mark Preston
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> -----------------------
> Wayne Clancy
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:38:06 +0530
> From: "gaurav verma" <gaurav_v_13 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] Help ! Problem after installing RedHat Linux9.0
> To: gllug at gllug.org.uk
> Message-ID: <BAY12-F98q4dfDBAyo30001416e at hotmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
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> >From: Chris Bell <chrisbell at overview.demon.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> >To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> >Subject: Re: [Gllug] Help ! Problem after installing RedHat Linux9.0
> >Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:01:06 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >On Fri 13 Feb, gaurav verma wrote:
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > By not working I mean whenever I start my PC it shows the time 00.00.00
> > > Jan1,1999
> >
> >    Could be a flat battery. Does the time count on from that when you 
> >power
> >up? Some early motherboards had a re-chargeable NiCd soldered to the board,
> >often seen with chemicals around the failed seals, some early clock chips
> >had a lithium battery packaged above the IC, more recent boards have a
> >replaceable cell. The grease from your skin can damage or short circuit the
> >cell, so do not touch it with your fingers.
> >
> >--
> >Chris Bell
> >
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> 
> Yes time counts on from when I power up. Thanks for your advice. I will do 
> not touch the sensitive parts.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gaurav
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:49:38 +0000
> From: Richard Huxton <dev at archonet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] How to access files on Win platform through Linux
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>,	Harvey
> 	Kelly <harvey.kelly at kcl.ac.uk>
> Message-ID: <200402131549.38546.dev at archonet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> On Friday 13 February 2004 12:46, Harvey Kelly wrote:
> > -------------------
> >
> > >On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 12:30, gaurav verma wrote:
> > > I have installed both Win2000 & RedHat Linux9.0 on my system. How
> >
> > can I
> > copy
> >
> > > or access the files stored on Win2000 through Linux. Can somebody
> > help me
> > > please?
> >
> > Add something like:
> > /dev/hda1    /c    vfat    auto,user    0    0
> 
> OK - while this is good advice if he has a FAT partition with his data on, 
> that's not necessarily the case with a Win2K machine (probably NTFS).
> 
> Now there is an NTFS driver, but it's read-only, and I don't think it's 
> included with RedHat 9. However, their website is here:
>   http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/
> and they say something about RPMs on the front-page, so that's a possible 
> solution.
> 
> If you want to read/write data from both Windows and Linux, I'd suggest a FAT
> 
> partition of a couple of gigabytes. Or, of course, another hard-disk (handy 
> if you've recently upgraded).
> 
> -- 
>   Richard Huxton
>   Archonet Ltd
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:31:36 +0000
> From: Christopher Hunter <chrisehunter at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] London Connects
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <200402131631.36441.chrisehunter at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> On Friday 13 Feb 2004 3:31 pm, Mamading Ceesay wrote:
> 
> > When dealing with Microsoft, it is crystal clear to everybody that they
> > oppose open source.  OpenForum claim to support open source but their
> > policies and positions are the very opposite of what open source needs
> > to survive and thrive.
> 
> According to the BBC today, that shouldn't be too much of a problem in the 
> future!  
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3486011.stm
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:38:20 +0000
> From: Rev Simon Rumble <simon at rumble.net>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] Open Forum
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <20040213163820.GP27428 at rumble.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> This one time, at band camp, Jack Richards wrote:
> > Open Forum seem to have some very strange loyalties.  I know a couple of
> the 
> > guys within who are very Open Source minded, but there are others who are 
> > totally the opposite way inclined.  
> 
> "Open" and "Open Systems" back in the bad old days of commercial Unix
> was a synonym for "closed".
> 
> -- 
> Rev Simon Rumble <simon at rumble.net>
> www.rumble.net
> 
>  "We live in an age of music for people who don't like music.
>   The record industry discovered some time ago that there aren't
>   that many people who actually like music. For a lot of people,
>   music's annoying, or at the very least they don't need it.
>   They discovered if they could sell music to a lot of those
>   people, they could sell a lot more records."
> - T Bone Burnett
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:11:19 +0000
> From: Doug Winter <doug at pigeonhold.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] Open Forum
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <20040213171119.GC13301 at pigeonhold.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Fri 13 Feb Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Jack Richards wrote:
> > > Open Forum seem to have some very strange loyalties.  I know a
> > > couple of the guys within who are very Open Source minded, but there
> > > are others who are totally the opposite way inclined.  
> > 
> > "Open" and "Open Systems" back in the bad old days of commercial Unix
> > was a synonym for "closed".
> 
> Open Forum are a right weird lot though.  They're stated position is
> basically 'open source is great because we'll all be rich!'.  They are
> funded by tech suppliers mostly, and are very businessy.  Lots of suit
> wearing and mumbling about profit and support contracts and the like.
> 
> There might be some stealth geeks in there somewhere, but mostly I think
> it's just typical organisation with quangoitis that has colonised open
> source as an issue mostly because nobody else had.
> 
> They have their use I imagine, talking to the terminally FUD-infected,
> but the only interests they really represent are those of people trying
> to sell you things.
> 
> doug.
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:23:38 -0000 (GMT)
> From: "Henrik Morsing" <henrik at morsing.cc>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] smbpasswd change
> To: "Greater London Linux Users Group" <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> Message-ID:
> 	<50879.195.190.132.210.1076693018.squirrel at webmail.morsing.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> 
> > On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 06:28:00PM -0000, Henrik Morsing wrote:
> >> If I enable debug I get:
> >>
> >> Old SMB password:
> >> New SMB password:
> >> Retype new SMB password:
> >> Connecting to 127.0.0.1 at port 445
> >> error connecting to 127.0.0.1:445 (Connection refused)
> >> Connecting to 127.0.0.1 at port 139
> >> machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the password change: Error was : RAP86: The
> >> specified
> >>  password is invalid.
> >> Failed to change password for hhmors
> >> madbt201 $
> >
> > I would say that, as it says, the specified password is invalid!  But I
> > think you're assuming it's talking about the NEW password, whereas I would
> > read that as referring to the OLD password which you must of course know
> > in
> > order to change it.
> >
> 
> If anyone is interested I finally cracked this one. I did a nice little
> truss on the SMB process. It proved that there was a file missing in
> /usr/bin called s2upasswd.pl
> 
> 
> -- 
> ---
> Henrik Morsing
> henrik at morsing.cc
> www.morsing.cc
> ---
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:57:44 +0000
> From: Nix <nix at esperi.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Gllug] Rejecting mail at backup MX
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <87k72qoipz.fsf at amaterasu.srvr.nix>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Bruce Richardson stipulated:
> >                                    I just use recipient callout, where
> > the mailer connects to the destination system and does this:
> > 
> > 	helo exim.box
> > 	mail from: alleged.sender at alleged.source
> > 	rcpt to: recipient at domain.org
> > 
> > and rejects the mail if the end system rejects it.
> 
> Er, isn't this what every single relaying MTA on the planet does? :)
> 
> -- 
> `note to the crown prosecution service: Machine guns dont have a
>  'stun' setting.' --- mjw
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:05:02 +0000
> From: Will Napier <will at thinkingsuccess.com>
> Subject: [Gllug] logitec usb headset freezes mandrake 9.2
> To: Greater London Linux Users Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <402D2DEE.4060806 at thinkingsuccess.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
>   Its all in the title!
> 
> The model is usb headset 30. Is there any way out of this? I bought it 
> from ... PC World. I knew I was taking a risk and so far it hasn't paid 
> off. As soon as you plug in to a usb port the mouse and everything else 
> freezes. Is this a software confict? I have a usb mouse and printer that 
> work fine.
> 
> Will Napier
> 
> 
> 
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