[Gllug] Production system - Linux 2.4.24, LVM and cciss

Rickey Costas rickey at lefteris.co.uk
Mon Jan 12 16:45:45 UTC 2004


Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 03:11:33PM +0000, Rickey wrote:
> 
>>Also, I fairly hate having packages built for me. They never have the 
>>options I need, or the optimisations I'd like.
> 
> 
> Are you working in some really esoteric line?  How often do you need to
> compile esoteric options into grep or less or awk?

Not really. Games development & network infrastructure. I dont have any 
strange requirements of those basic commands, but things like apache, 
samba, etc all need compilation differently to what most distribution 
packagers would produce.

>
> For any but the most unusual demands, 99% of packages in a Linux
> distribution simply do not need to be recompiled.  Not only that but
> only a very few of them benefit from being recompiled with
> optimisations.

I though we were talking about freebsd, but the same applies. 99% of the 
software will be exactly the same, and thats why I dont need a 
configuration management tool.  However, I want the package built with 
the options that suit my site.

I have one machine which builds the superset of packages I use. When I 
need to update machines, I use the one package I've built, on all the 
machines in that class of machine.

I dont think we are talking different views on updating stuff. I'm just 
finding it difficult to understand why the freebsd model, and I guess 
some of the linux ones too are such a pain that you have to learn a 
whole new (funky) config management system.

Rickey.
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