[Gllug] Getting technical about email

Philip Hands phil at hands.com
Fri Nov 10 23:29:54 UTC 2006


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Mike Brodbelt wrote:
> Richard Jones wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 12:49:42AM +0000, Tethys wrote:
>>> "Daniel P. Berrange" writes:
>>>
>>>> You want to be using Fedora really ;-P Just install the XXX-debuginfo
>>>> sub-RPMs for the package in question & any libraries it uses which you're
>>>> interested in. Then 'gdb' against the process in question will give
>>>> you the full stack traces with no need to re-compile anything...
>>> See, that's one of the reasons I'm still using Fedora. They get a lot
>>> of things right, probably more than any other distribution.
>> One annoyance of Debian (there aren't that many) is their insistance
>> on stripping executables and libraries before installation.  It's even
>> policy[1].  Why?  To save valuable disk space on my 160 GB disk for
>> more unread files in /usr/share/doc?
> 
> It can be irritating, but it saves space on disk and in memory, so is
> reasonable. Why have debug symbols for the 99.9% of stuff you never
> debug. It's not that hard to grab the source, comment out dh-strip, and
> run dpkg-buildpackage over it.

or you can always just install the matching -dbg package (if it exists, and
many do, and for any that don't I'd guess that a wishlist bug would
generally be accepted for any package that's not totally trivial to rebuild)

For example:

$ aptitude show evolution-dbg
Package: evolution-dbg
State: not installed
Version: 2.6.3-2
Priority: extra
Section: gnome
Maintainer: Debian Evolution Maintainers
<pkg-evolution-maintainers at lists.alioth.debian.org>
Uncompressed Size: 14.6M
Depends: evolution (= 2.6.3-2)
Description: debugging symbols for Evolution
 Evolution is a groupware suite which integrates mail, calendar,
 address book, to-do list and memo tools.

 This package contains unstripped binaries of evolution for use
 in debugging.


Oh dear, there goes another reason not to use Debian :-)

Cheers, Phil.
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