[Gllug] C/C++ mentor

[TreeBoy]

On Tuesday 21 November 2006 23:39, Pete Ryland wrote:
> On 21/11/06, TreeBoy <gllug at petethetree.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Just like a lot of things Linux and indeed FOSS, choice is IMO a great
> thing.  Just like we have the choice of GTK+ or Qt (or TK, or ncurses,
> or plain-old X, or ...), we also have choice of development
> environment to be used to create apps with these toolkits.  I can see
>

Firstly thanks for a very calm response despite my rather inflammatory start.

You are entirely right in all of what you say here, but my problem has always 
been related to:

> I don't think it's that much trouble to add a
> few extra things to your google searches to find information relevant
> to your chosen way of doing things.

I do not know which extra terms to add because I did not know that there were 
other terms that are relevant.


> > With KDE and QT there is only really one toolset and everyone deals with
> > that same one.
>
> This is not really true.  There are plenty of Qt and KDE developers
> that don't use Kdevelop.  However, you'll still hear them recommend it
> to those new to the toolkit.

Again, you are entirely right except that "everyone points you at KDevelop if 
you want to learn". I believe that GNOME is missing out on huge numbers of 
developers because there is no GNOME equivalent.

>
> > GNOME may well be technically superior
>
> I was going to say that that was debatable, but really it's not even
> possible to debate.  They are technically *different*! :-)

Again, you are entirely right, but I wanted to placate some of the flamers 
that do exist on this list. (Did I just sound like one ?)

>
> > Here I am hanging myself out to dry and I hope that some developers for
> > GNOME will get involved in a conversation that may be of interest to the
> > First Poster and re-educate my opinion.
>
> As it turns out, I currently share some of your pain.  Having not done
> anything with GTK+ for a few years, I wanted to write some simple
> frontends with PyGTK, and found little improvement in the learning
> curve since GTK1.0.  

I'm now learning wxPython (which is GTK-based embarrassingly) because it works 
on Windows and Linux. Learning Python and wx at the same time is surprisingly 
less difficult than I imagined.

>
> Sorry for the divergence of the topic, and for the pimping, but I
> thought it might be interesting to some.

Really appreciate what you have to say.
Cheers,

>
> Pete
(My name's Pete too!)
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