For anyone who, like me enjoys "Mouse Trap" and Rube-Goldberg type contraptions: chain reaction machines from Japan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94EVRn1WG5A Some of the engineering is truly impressive ! Gabriel. http://lives.sourceforge.net -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at gllug.org.uk http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug