I can't say I have used 'ip' as opposed to 'ifconfig', but with regard to IP routing I have always used 'route' to set and inspect the routing tables ! I can't actually find an 'ip' command on any of my linux systems - but they are not 'bleeding edge' !! Tim -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at gllug.org.uk http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug