I think the real question is which (if any) of these projects will be first to end up with all their patches in the main Linux kernel. You might also want to look at the Linux containers project: http://lxc.sourceforge.net/ Rich. -- Richard Jones Red Hat -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at gllug.org.uk http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug