What happens - at least in my case - to 60-year old sysadmins is that they left the industry twenty years ago, and forget the simplest things. Somebody please remind me: what's the command for starting a daemon? -- All the best, John -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at gllug.org.uk http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug