[Gllug] Schoolboy Grammar

Tue Mar 27 08:45:49 UTC 2012

John Walker said:

> But please note that the adjective from "grammar" is "grammatical", not "grammar"!

But who cares since it doesn't need to be an adjective?  The following are all fine

A mathematics error
A physics error
A Cooking error

Although the example is more like

A rooky error
A newbie error

Or maybe better

A newbie gamer error

But take what I say with a large pinch of NaCl because I'm frequently hoist by my own pedantry.

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   1. Re: VACANCY: Linux Systems Administrator (JLMS)
   2. Re: VACANCY: Linux Systems Administrator (Keith Edmunds)
   3. Re: VACANCY: Linux Systems Administrator (John G Walker)
   4. Gnome 3 (Mick Farmer)
   5. Re: Gnome 3 (Stuart Sears)
   6. Re: Gnome 3 (Richard W.M. Jones)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:11:53 +0100
From: JLMS <jjllmmss at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gllug] VACANCY: Linux Systems Administrator
To: Greater London Linux User Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
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On 25 March 2012 12:00, Martin A. Brooks <martin at hinterlands.org> wrote:
> On Sun, March 25, 2012 11:11, Keith Edmunds wrote:
>> Here's our criteria for selecting
>
> ...
>
>
>> A candidate with RHEL and a degree who believes that it is acceptable 
>> for the pronoun "I" to be written "i" will probably not get an interview.
>
> So, presumably, you'll be giving yourself a stern ticking off for the 
> schoolboy grammar error in your first sentence :)
>

Well spotted.

Some people hiring in such a harsh basis should eat a bit of humble pay once in a while, some of these people (not necessarily the grammar lover on this thread) then moan about shortages of skilled professionals, but some of them make hiring decisions on the most bizarre of basis discarding perfectly capable professionals that don't fit their very narrow view of overall competence.

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:02:20 +0100
From: Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com>
Subject: Re: [Gllug] VACANCY: Linux Systems Administrator
To: gllug at gllug.org.uk
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> So, presumably, you'll be giving yourself a stern ticking off for the 
> schoolboy grammar error in your first sentence :)

Absolutely!
--
"You can have everything in life you want if you help enough other people get what they want" - Zig Ziglar. 

Who did you help today?

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:22:48 +0100
From: John G Walker <johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Gllug] VACANCY: Linux Systems Administrator
To: Greater London Linux User Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:02:20 +0100 Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com>
wrote:

> > So, presumably, you'll be giving yourself a stern ticking off for 
> > the schoolboy grammar error in your first sentence :)
> 
> Absolutely!

Actually I don't consider it to be a grammatical error, but, rather, a colloquialism.

But please note that the adjective from "grammar" is "grammatical", not "grammar"!

The trouble with being pedantic about the English language is that you run the risk of making errors yourself. On the other hand, I'd be a bit wary of someone who used "i" in a formal document, unless they happened to be e.e.cummings,

--
 All the best,
 John

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:43:24 +0100
From: Mick Farmer <mick at plan7.co.uk>
Subject: [Gllug] Gnome 3
To: gllug <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
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Dear GLLUGers,

Today I upgraded Fedora from 14 to 16.  I assume that Gnome 3 is my new
window manager.

However, when I try to change anything I don't have an "Activities" on
the left of my top menu, just "Applications" and "Places".

Am I really running Gnome 3?

If so, how do I access my activities?

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,

Mick

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:04:03 +0100
From: Stuart Sears <stuart at sjsears.com>
Subject: Re: [Gllug] Gnome 3
To: Greater London Linux User Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
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 On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:43:24 +0100, Mick Farmer wrote:
> Dear GLLUGers,
>
> Today I upgraded Fedora from 14 to 16.  I assume that Gnome 3 is my 
> new
> window manager.
>
> However, when I try to change anything I don't have an "Activities" 
> on
> the left of my top menu, just "Applications" and "Places".

 It's possible you are running in fallback mode, which is used when the 
 graphics HW in your system is not 'powerful' enough for the full-on 
 GNOME Shell experience. What's the spec of the machine you're running 
 on?

 Does your screen look like the screenshots of fallback mode on this 
 site?

 http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3-fallback.html

>
> Am I really running Gnome 3?

 Yes, probably. If you're on Fedora 16, pretty much definitely as there 
 is no GNOME2 available.

>
> If so, how do I access my activities?

 Define 'activities' in this sense? the fancy overlays (probably**) 
 won't work in fallback mode, but you should be able to run apps from the 
 'Applications' menu as before.

 Stuart

 ** I have no idea, I haven't actually used fallback mode.

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:22:54 +0100
From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rich at annexia.org>
Subject: Re: [Gllug] Gnome 3
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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 01:43:24AM +0100, Mick Farmer wrote:
> Today I upgraded Fedora from 14 to 16.  I assume that Gnome 3 is my new
> window manager.
> 
> However, when I try to change anything I don't have an "Activities" on
> the left of my top menu, just "Applications" and "Places".
> 
> Am I really running Gnome 3?

Yes, in fallback mode.

You might want to try XFCE:

  # yum install @XFCE

then log out and at the login prompt select "XFCE 4" as your
session manager.

Rich.

-- 
Richard Jones
Red Hat

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