[Gllug] Schoolboy Grammar
stuart at sjsears.com
Tue Mar 27 10:18:30 UTC 2012
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:45:49 +0000, Tyson, Jim wrote:
> John Walker said:
>> But please note that the adjective from "grammar" is "grammatical",
>> not "grammar"!
> But who cares since it doesn't need to be an adjective?
Um, yes "it" does, in general. You can write sentences with a 'noun
adjunct' where nouns are used as modifiers of other nouns, but it does
not read well, except in the cases where there is no other 'grammatical'
way to frame a particular thought.
>The following are all fine
They're also not examples of the same thing.
> A mathematics error
In what way is that fine?
Surely it's either an "error in mathematics" or "a mathematical error"?
If there was no adjectival form of 'mathematics', I'd probably agree
As if that were important or something. :)
> A physics error
[insert similar argument]
Having said that, "physical" does not predominantly imply anything to
do with 'physics' in general usage and might give a different meaning to
the phrase. I still think that "an error in physics" is better.
> A Cooking error
Cooking is a gerund and therefore an adjectival form, so this one
works, although probably not for the reason you gave (it is adjectival).
Although you can still say "An error in cooking"
> Although the example is more like
> A rooky error
Unless you're referring to an error characterised by an abundance of
rooks, I suppose.
here, rookie is used as a modifier - it's an adjectival noun anyway.
> A newbie error
> Or maybe better
> A newbie gamer error
> But take what I say with a large pinch of NaCl because I'm frequently
> hoist by my own pedantry.
On that very note:
Did you absolutely have to posting (what appears to be) the entire
digest email with a random portion responded to at the top and all the
unrelated parts beneath it?
Surely something else for the pedants to get their teeth into :)
[snip] <- see? :)
(waiting for the rebuttal)
p.s. Yes, I am aware that languages change and evolve. I spent several
years teaching them for a living.
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