[GLLUG] Seemingly Simple Question

[Leo Francisco]

Hey Travis,

They look like good machines but it's just the price. I'm just going for
a Thinkpad as they're probably the best Laptops you can get for under £300.

I do a lot of live performance and DJing, so I wouldn't want anything
too expensive. Even thought my Macbook Pro is from 2009, it's still
worth quite a bit.

Thanks
Leo



On 04/11/15 12:20, Travis Mooney wrote:
> Hey All —
>
> I also have a Thinkpad X220 (and a Dell XPS 13 Ubuntu version, and a
> Macbook Pro, and a Samsung Arm Chromebook, and a Pi-Top that’ll be
> delivered Monday, it seems).
>
> The Thinkpad has the best driver support of the lot under Linux. But
> Alan is right — the build quality is so-so, and the ‘support’ is
> laughable compared to Dell (or even Apple). It’s not a bad computer,
> but the screen resolution is pretty low. The hardware upsides are an
> actual ethernet port, and the eraser mouse, but neither of those would
> convince me to buy a Thinkpad again.
>
> Mine is the i5 version. I keep it around as a testing unit, mostly.
> Resale value isn’t worth the hassle. I wouldn’t call it a ‘tough’
> laptop, though. The all-metal construction of the XPS 13 is definitely
> better. But there was a very annoying regression in the XPS 13’s
> wireless driver under 14.04, which pushed me over the edge and I
> bought a Mac (which I kind of hate, but that’s another discussion).
>
> If I were you, I would look for a Dell XPS 13 (even an early version,
> as long as the battery is ok) or an M3800 (you wanted tough, right?).
> I think you would be hard pressed to find a better solution, and if
> necessary you can change out the WiFi, etc.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> travis
>
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>
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>
>> On 4 Nov 2015, at 10:50, Alan Pope <alan at popey.com
>> <mailto:alan at popey.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leo,
>>
>> On 2 November 2015 at 22:57,  <lists at boywithwings.co.uk
>> <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> I'm thinking either a T410 or X220. The main goal would be a tough
>>> laptop
>>> that I could use for DJing and Music Production. Unfortunately this
>>> means I
>>> would have to run Windows on it (URGH UNCLEAN) to run some of the music
>>> software I rely. I would probably dual boot with Ubuntu Studio.
>>>
>>
>> I have an i7 Thinkpad X220 which currently dual boots Windows / Ubuntu
>> with two SSDs (one traditional SATA, one mSATA). Works okay for a 4
>> year old laptop.
>>
>>> My question is mainly, which one do people recommend for my use
>>> case? I do a
>>> lot of lugging equipment around the UK (and Europe), so that would
>>> push me
>>> towards the X220.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know the T410, but my thoughts on the X220:-
>>
>> i7 variant cannot dump the heat generated by the CPU. My i7 frequently
>> overheats, and always has, co-workers have i5 which never do.
>> Screen resolution is annoyingly low these days, but if that's not a
>> factor in your decision, then okay.
>> Modern Intel video drivers seem to have gone down the drain.
>> Sandybridge based devices (which, okay, are 4+years old) are painful
>> when any kind of 3d stuff is being done, and on recent kernels are
>> quite crashy.
>> Speakers are awful / low volume.
>> Build quality isn't that great. I've had to replace the palm rest (at
>> my own expense - thanks Lenovo!) because it cracks (co-workers have
>> seen same on theirs).
>>
>>> I've seen the more expensive X220 occasionally for sale with a i7
>>> but the
>>> T410 with only an i5. My Macbook has a dual core i5 with 8GB of RAM
>>> and 1TB
>>> hybrid drive and has a similar form factor to the cheaper T410.
>>> Would there
>>> be a big performance gap between the i7 X220 and the i5 T410? I will
>>> go for
>>> an SSD in either and a good trackpad is a must.
>>>
>>
>> The trackpad on the X220 is tiny. I actual disable it because I'm a
>> nipple (trackpoint) kinda guy. The trackpad is quite 'clacky' on the
>> x220.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Al.
>>
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