[Gloucs] Printer, scanner and All-in-one's

Wed Feb 16 06:15:25 UTC 2011

CIS - Continuous Ink Systems.  I have used these for several years on Epson
printers and you can get them on ebay and through companies like:

http://www.marrutt.com/lyson-printing-inks.php

On a 'smallish' budget ink jet printing is still miles better than colour
laser printers.  Lyson inks are now an American company who now sell very
expensive ink compared to 10 years ago when it was a British company  -  a
total rip off.

Kind regards

Andrew Winton
andrew at winton.ch

-----Original Message-----
From: gloucs-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:gloucs-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Glyn Davies
Sent: 15 February 2011 22:55
To: Gloucestershire LUG
Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Printer, scanner and All-in-one's

Some guys used to go around radio rallies selling mod kits for printers.
Said kit told you how to drill holes in the top of the cartridges, you then
attached some flexible plumbing to said holes and attached 50 gallon drums
of ink the other. Said plumbling whizzed along as the print head moved.
Overall effect looked like a cross beween a Doctor Who baddie and an hot
rod. Didn't see what the quality of the prints were like. Not seen these
kits anyway else. A quick looks on Ebay produced nowt. I may have
exaggerated the ink quantity a bit.

On 15 February 2011 16:36, Andrew Ford <A.Ford at ford-mason.co.uk> wrote:

> Our Epson 7600 has 7 colours - Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black, Light Cyan,
> Light Magenta (light yellow isn't necessary as yellow is perceived as
light
> anyway)... and the final colour is described as "Light Black"!  I suspect
> that that is what you've got too as your fifth cartridge.  It is
essentially
> gray, but having black and gray gives a wider range of shades of black
than
> just having a single black cartridge.
>
> Most printers - even fine art printers like the Epson wide-format printers
> - are sRGB devices, so they map RGB values into the CMYK colour space
(black
> is represented as K to differentiate it from B for Blue in RGB colour
> space).  Colour management is quite a complex subject (my wife does fine
art
> printing for artists and galleries).  Unfortunately colour management in
> Linux is only now starting to catch up with Windows and Macs.
>
> It amazes me how well consumer photo printers perform, although the cost
of
> inks astounds me.  Most consumer-grade printers use 15 to 20 ml
cartridges,
> which can cost about £25.  The professional quality inks we use come in
200
> ml cartridges costing about £60 each.  Go do the maths!
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 15/02/11 16:06, Ernie wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> and thanks for the replies that I had.
>> Eventually I decided to get an HP All-in-One and went totally mad and
>> bought the HP Photosmart eStation C510! its a wireless device with a USB
>> connector as well.
>>
>> As you said Matthew, Ubuntu supports it well.  Set up was easy and I was
>> doing standard sort of printing and a couple of photo inno time at all.
>>  Then on to the scanner.  Perfect!
>> However (well, no not really) I'm still playing with the undock-able,
>> screen.  They call it a 'Zeen' It's just too clever for its own good.
Seems
>> to be a cross between an ipad/ipod sort of thingy.  Not that I know
>> anythin(!) about hand held (Phones-ugh!) devices.
>> So I've got it to tell me whenever I can receive emails, tell me the
>> weather, browse on the Internet etc.  All seems to work well on my wi-fi
>> network at home.  Haven't yet taken it anywhere else that I know has
wifi,
>> (Starbucks) as I don't yet know what the battery life is like.
>>
>> Of and I can see the ink levels and do normal administration of the
>> printer and scanner from it.
>>
>> What made me decide on it was that we had just decided to pop inti a
local
>> Curry's PC World - just to have a look around, and we found that there
was a
>> visiting chap from HP, who was very helpful.  He seemed to understand
what I
>> was asking (Ubuntu /Linux etc) well, at least it wasn't the blank stare
you
>> often get from the 'salesman' at those sort of establishments.
>>
>>
>> This printer, by the way has 5 separate ink cartridges, though only 3
>> colours, a black and another - which looks like a sort of dark gray.
>> Oh and ther's an SD slot in the Zeen, which I haven't tried yet.  You can
>> print across the Internet.........  Oh wow!  can't wait to try it ;-)
>> Ernie
>>
>>
>> On 03/02/11 12:48, Matthew Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> HP printers are well supported on ubuntu by installing hplip
>>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/screenshots.html
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install hplip hplip-gui hplip-cups hplip-data
>>>
>>> I currently use a HP Photosmart C5180 all in one (wired network printer)
>>> Scanner can be accessed via web interface or directly via front panel.
>>> Scans
>>> can be saved to memory card which is then accessed using smb as it
>>> presents
>>> itself as a network share.
>>> Printing works just fine.
>>> It also has a extra 6x4 paper tray for the decent printouts.
>>>
>>> It has 5 colour cartridges and a large black. I bought it from tesco
over
>>> 2
>>> years ago for about £50. I'm sure there are now better models out for
>>> cheaper....
>>>
>>> Let us know what you decide on.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 February 2011 12:41, Ernie<ernie at linfoot.plus.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Everyone,
>>>> Having been to only a few meetings in the past, I appreciate there are
a
>>>> lot of people who
>>>> are willing to help with their advice etc.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly I having been able to get to as many meetings as I had hoped, due
>>>> to
>>>> a variety of
>>>> seemingly feeble excuses!  Maybe this year...........
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, Can I have some advice from the group regarding Printers,
>>>> scanners
>>>> and All-in-one
>>>> devices that work well with Linux - particularly I would like to hear
>>>> from
>>>> anyone who is
>>>> running Ubuntu 10.4.
>>>>
>>>> My Canon S820 (its a photo printer with 6 separate ink tanks) is now
>>>> showing an error
>>>> message which indicates that its 'Waste Tank is almost full' and it
>>>> looks
>>>> like its going to
>>>> be as costly as a new one :-(
>>>>
>>>> Also my current scanner is an old parallel port printer which runs on
>>>> Windows 98 (and that's
>>>> almost the only reason for using that OS now.,
>>>> So I thought it might be worth investigating the current state of the
>>>> market with regards to
>>>> Compatibility with Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Ideally I'd like a photo printer with separate (5?) ink colours Max A4
>>>> size, and a scanner
>>>> with a transparency system. I've got loads of really old family
>>>> negatives,
>>>> of varying sized,
>>>> not just 35mm!
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear from anyone with their experiences (and problems) of
>>>> printing and scanning on this great Operating system.
>>>>
>>>> Just one word of warning, Although I've been involved with computer
>>>> since
>>>> about 1991, and
>>>> Linux for about 2 years I still regard myself as relatively
>>>> inexperienced
>>>> with Linux, so any
>>>> replies, Please, keep it simple
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reading this far..
>>>> All the best
>>>> Ernie Knagg
>>>>
>>>>
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