[Gloucs] Back Track 5
matt robbins
mrrobbins1 at live.co.uk
Wed Jul 27 15:25:33 UTC 2011
Hi Matt,
Yep I've been reading up on rainbow tables, A salt is the information thats basically used to calculate the key? For example the SSID is what is used in WPA. The only thing is the rainbow tables are so big in size it would take me weeks to download from one of the sites etc.
Yea that would be great mate, does anybody know when the next meeting is scheduled yet?
IS DEFCON a security related event? Think i've heard of it before briefly.
Cheers,
Matt R
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> From: matt robbins <mrrobbins1 at live.co.uk>
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> Hi Matt,
>
> Yea that would be great if you could do that for me, I have a notebook with russix installed but would much rather Back Track 5 installed onto the system. When do you think we could do it?
>
> Yea i'll get that script later today, will be handy to get the rest of tools needed.
>
> Does Back Track 5 have rainbow tables built in for wpa-psk?
>
> Thanks mate,
>
> Matt R
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:55:05 +0100
> > From: matt robbins <mrrobbins1 at live.co.uk>
> > Subject: [Gloucs] Back track 5
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anybody have a copy of back track 5 or any decent security distro on usb so i can install it onto my notebook?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Matt R
> >
> > > From: gloucs-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
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> > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:55:41 +0100
> > > From: Peter Ellis <peter.ellis at finalhaven.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Website upload
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> > > On 18 July 2011 22:07, Glyn Davies <glynd at walmore.com> wrote:
> > > > So, I have a webserver on my SLUG (lighthttpd) and it would seem
> > > > simple to have a little page which allowed the Aussies to upload a zip
> > > > of the photos to the SLUG.
> > >
> > > Were it me I would tell them to download dropbox and use the link
> > > sharing capabilities it provides (See https://www.dropbox.com/help/16
> > > for the full details).
> > >
> > > > Where do I start to achieve this (in the simplest, quickest way)?
> > > >
> > > > P.S. I know all about the NATting and the firewalling, etc. It's the
> > > > easiest way to 'configure' the webserver.
> > >
> > > Again were it me wanting to do this I would probably knock up a small
> > > Django app with a FileField and ask them to use that but I have Django
> > > set up and working already. Otherwise I would go with Matthews idea
> > > of a php file upload script and put htaccess authentication in front
> > > of it.
> > >
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> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:04:33 +0100
> > From: Matthew Phillips <phillips321 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Back track 5
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> > Matt,
> >
> > I do have a copy but it's on my 4Gb drive. If you don't have a 4gb usb stick
> > i'm happy to install it for you using my 4gb drive. (4gb drive can be picked
> > up from tesco for ?1-2 and then use unetbootin to create the bootable drive)
> >
> > I would recommend installing BT5-Gnome-32bit on it, beware though, there's
> > absolutely shed loads missing. Netsed for exmaple is missing and it doesn't
> > even have a graphical calculator installed.
> >
> > And here's my shameless plug: download and run my script, it's written
> > specifically for BT5 Gnome 32bit as it's what i use daily. What it basically
> > does is install many of the missing tools and programs. You can
> > disable/enable what you want easily using the user interface. Info about it
> > can be found here: https://www.phillips321.co.uk/bt5-fixit-sh/
> > And if you wish to get the latest copy via svn then a simple `*svn checkout
> > http://bt5-fixit.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ bt5-fixit` *will do the trick.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > Matt Phillips
> >
> >
> > On 26 July 2011 13:55, matt robbins <mrrobbins1 at live.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Does anybody have a copy of back track 5 or any decent security distro on
> > > usb so i can install it onto my notebook?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Matt R
> > >
> > > > From: gloucs-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
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> > > > From: Peter Ellis <peter.ellis at finalhaven.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Website upload
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> > > >
> > > > On 18 July 2011 22:07, Glyn Davies <glynd at walmore.com> wrote:
> > > > > So, I have a webserver on my SLUG (lighthttpd) and it would seem
> > > > > simple to have a little page which allowed the Aussies to upload a zip
> > > > > of the photos to the SLUG.
> > > >
> > > > Were it me I would tell them to download dropbox and use the link
> > > > sharing capabilities it provides (See https://www.dropbox.com/help/16
> > > > for the full details).
> > > >
> > > > > Where do I start to achieve this (in the simplest, quickest way)?
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. I know all about the NATting and the firewalling, etc. It's the
> > > > > easiest way to 'configure' the webserver.
> > > >
> > > > Again were it me wanting to do this I would probably knock up a small
> > > > Django app with a FileField and ask them to use that but I have Django
> > > > set up and working already. Otherwise I would go with Matthews idea
> > > > of a php file upload script and put htaccess authentication in front
> > > > of it.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter Ellis <peter.ellis at finalhaven.org>
> > > >
> > > >
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> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:44:44 +0100
> > From: Sam Tuke <samtuke at fsfe.org>
> > Subject: [Gloucs] Hunt down ads for non-Free PDF readers on 13th
> > August
> > To: Sam Tuke <samtuke at fsfe.org>
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> > The Free Software Foundation Europe's successful PDF Readers campaign
> > comes to Manchester next month for a one day sprint at MadLab
> > hackerspace on the 13th of August, 15.00-17.30. Cakes and pizza provided!
> >
> > *What:*
> >
> > We'll search out proprietary PDF reader adverts on UK Government funded
> > websites, and contact the institutions by letter and email, requesting
> > that they remove them.
> >
> > Currently there are only 41 reports of such adverts in the UK, only
> > three of which have already been resolved by the advert being removed.
> > Many more adverts on UK Government websites still exist however, and on
> > 13th August we'll find them, and aim to get as many of them removed as
> > possible.
> >
> > *Why:*
> >
> > Publicly funded institutions routinely advertise proprietary PDF reader
> > applications on their websites, often stating that a particular vendor's
> > product is "required" for completing basic civic tasks like paying tax
> > or registering a vehicle.
> >
> > Yet Free Software PDF Readers exist for all major operating systems,
> > which can be used to perform the same tasks without sacrificing the
> > freedom of their users.
> >
> > Many institutions carry proprietary software adverts simply out of
> > ignorance, not realising that there are alternatives which protect
> > citizens' freedom. By contacting them we will be making them aware of
> > the existence of Free Software alternatives, and encouraging them to
> > think about the benefits of Free Software in general.
> >
> > *Can it work?:*
> >
> > Throughout Europe, Free Software advocates have already reported more
> > than 2,000 adverts, and successfully removed nearly 500 of them. Many of
> > the success stories involved high profile websites, such as the Belgian
> > Prime Minister, The Mayor of London, and the Bank of Italy. Several
> > adverts have been replaced with links to Free Software PDF Readers on
> > the pdfreaders.org website.
> >
> > *Real progress has been made, now its time to make an impact in the UK!*
> >
> > *Links:*
> >
> > MadLad event page:
> > http://madlab.org.uk/content/stamp-out-the-ads-free-software-pdf-reader-
> > sprint/
> >
> > Campaign homepage:
> > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders
> >
> > Report an advert from a UK website:
> > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/bug-report-uk.en.html
> >
> > List of UK adverts already reported:
> > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/buglist.en.html#GB
> >
> > Website about Free Software PDF Readers:
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> >
> > See you there!
> >
> > Sam.
> >
> > --
> > Sam Tuke
> > British Team Coordinator
> > Free Software Foundation Europe
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> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:43:23 +0100
> > From: Paul Broadhead <lug at twinmoons.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Hunt down ads for non-Free PDF readers on 13th
> > August
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> > Sam Tuke wrote:
> >
> > > The Free Software Foundation Europe's successful PDF Readers campaign
> > > comes to Manchester next month for a one day sprint at MadLab
> > > hackerspace on the 13th of August, 15.00-17.30. Cakes and pizza
> > > provided!....
> >
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> > Regards,
> > Paul
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> >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:13:26 +0100 (BST)
> > From: GEOFF BAGLEY <geoff.bagley at btinternet.com>
> > Subject: [Gloucs] Hypervisors.
> > To: gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk
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> >
> > I am tempted to try out one of the available hypervisors to enable me to try out other virtual operating systems.
> >
> > My machine is 64 bit.
> >
> > Would there be a problem with 32 bit guest operating systems?
> > These are the most plentiful !
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:24:05 +0100
> > From: Tom Llewelyn <tom at llewelyn.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Hypervisors.
> > To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Hi Geoff
> >
> > What hypervisor/host OS are you looking at?
> >
> > KVM and Xen on Linux hosts can both support 32-bit guests on a 64-bit host.
> > I believe VMWare and Virtualbox can do this to but have never tried with
> > either.
> >
> > Hope that helps
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On 27 July 2011 11:13, GEOFF BAGLEY <geoff.bagley at btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am tempted to try out one of the available hypervisors to enable me to
> > > try out other virtual operating systems.
> > >
> > > My machine is 64 bit.
> > >
> > > Would there be a problem with 32 bit guest operating systems?
> > > These are the most plentiful !
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > Geoff
> > >
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:49:24 +0100
> > From: Matthew Phillips <phillips321 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Hypervisors.
> > To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAO1ouJ-W3Nh39oN0bT=iksTk49=QxEoghWToY=g5COskW=huPg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > vmware/virtual box will be the easiest route. most people now package in
> > vmware for deployment so it'll potentially help you better in the industry.
> >
> > It's also much easier to learn.
> >
> > Virtual box is free but doesn't have as many of the features as vmware.
> > virtualbox is also a bugger to package virtual machines as it stores the
> > config and the config separate.
> >
> > My vote would be
> >
> > 1. vmware
> > 2. virtualbox
> > 3. xen
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On 27 July 2011 11:24, Tom Llewelyn <tom at llewelyn.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Geoff
> > >
> > > What hypervisor/host OS are you looking at?
> > >
> > > KVM and Xen on Linux hosts can both support 32-bit guests on a 64-bit host.
> > > I believe VMWare and Virtualbox can do this to but have never tried with
> > > either.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 27 July 2011 11:13, GEOFF BAGLEY <geoff.bagley at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am tempted to try out one of the available hypervisors to enable me to
> > > > try out other virtual operating systems.
> > > >
> > > > My machine is 64 bit.
> > > >
> > > > Would there be a problem with 32 bit guest operating systems?
> > > > These are the most plentiful !
> > > >
> > > > Best regards.
> > > >
> > > > Geoff
> > > >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:43:55 +0100
> From: Bob Henson <robert.h.henson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Hypervisors.
> To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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>
>
> On 27/07/2011 11:13, GEOFF BAGLEY wrote:
> > I am tempted to try out one of the available hypervisors to enable me to try out other virtual operating systems.
> >
> > My machine is 64 bit.
> >
> > Would there be a problem with 32 bit guest operating systems?
> > These are the most plentiful !
>
> I run 32 bit Debian using VirtualBox on my 64 bit Windows machine. I've
> run 64 bit Ubuntu under 64 bit Windows too. If you run VirtualBox with
> Linux as host you may have a few problems if you use the VirtualBox from
> the various Linux repositories, as only the one direct from Oracle with
> the Extension Pack handles USB devices fully. It does most things I've
> asked of it, but I haven't gone into it in any great depth - I only use
> it (a) for fun and (b) to test out and learn about Linux distros.
>
> It may not surprise the experts, but I was amused to find I could run a
> Windows executable using Wine under Debian running in the VB under
> Windows - nested operating systems, no less. It all seems a tad
> incestuous to me :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:19:26 +0100
> From: Matthew Phillips <phillips321 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Back Track 5
> To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Message-ID:
> <CAO1ouJ_yndJNQJ5mOxHmubxB18Vu1xXgP-PkA6e=DZu8LJyQug at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> BT5 does not come with rainbow tables of any sort.
>
> What rainbow tables do is in a round about way pre compute the hash values
> in order to create a look up table. (This is not strictly true but it's prob
> the best way to think about it for now.)
>
> Do you understand what a salt of a hash is?
>
> I have plenty of rainbow tables, WPA (although remember that wpa hashes are
> salted with the ssid so each ssid requires a table)
> NTLM (by default microsoft hash implementations do not use a salt) and can
> be easily found on the net.
>
> I'm off to vegas next week in order to go to Defcon so am a bit busy ;-)
>
> Maybe at the next LUG meet i could install it for you?
>
> Matt
>
> On 27 July 2011 13:43, matt robbins <mrrobbins1 at live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Yea that would be great if you could do that for me, I have a notebook with
> > russix installed but would much rather Back Track 5 installed onto the
> > system. When do you think we could do it?
> >
> > Yea i'll get that script later today, will be handy to get the rest of
> > tools needed.
> >
> > Does Back Track 5 have rainbow tables built in for wpa-psk?
> >
> > Thanks mate,
> >
> > Matt R
> >
> > > From: gloucs-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > Subject: gloucs Digest, Vol 348, Issue 1
> > > To: gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:49:33 +0000
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. Back track 5 (matt robbins)
> > > 2. Re: Back track 5 (Matthew Phillips)
> > > 3. Hunt down ads for non-Free PDF readers on 13th August (Sam Tuke)
> > > 4. Re: Hunt down ads for non-Free PDF readers on 13th August
> > > (Paul Broadhead)
> > > 5. Hypervisors. (GEOFF BAGLEY)
> > > 6. Re: Hypervisors. (Tom Llewelyn)
> > > 7. Re: Hypervisors. (Matthew Phillips)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:55:05 +0100
> > > From: matt robbins <mrrobbins1 at live.co.uk>
> > > Subject: [Gloucs] Back track 5
> > > To: <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID: <COL121-W64E00FE04F9CA9D2F86E09B9320 at phx.gbl>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Does anybody have a copy of back track 5 or any decent security distro on
> > usb so i can install it onto my notebook?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Matt R
> > >
> > > > From: gloucs-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > Subject: gloucs Digest, Vol 347, Issue 2
> > > > To: gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:00:03 +0000
> > > >
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> > > > 1. Re: Website upload (Peter Ellis)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:55:41 +0100
> > > > From: Peter Ellis <peter.ellis at finalhaven.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Website upload
> > > > To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <
> > CAAq0GsP2_miBKK-cuNYorw1jkSa3PpnRaoJMfoQpzsLSNkqt_A at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > >
> > > > On 18 July 2011 22:07, Glyn Davies <glynd at walmore.com> wrote:
> > > > > So, I have a webserver on my SLUG (lighthttpd) and it would seem
> > > > > simple to have a little page which allowed the Aussies to upload a
> > zip
> > > > > of the photos to the SLUG.
> > > >
> > > > Were it me I would tell them to download dropbox and use the link
> > > > sharing capabilities it provides (See https://www.dropbox.com/help/16
> > > > for the full details).
> > > >
> > > > > Where do I start to achieve this (in the simplest, quickest way)?
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. I know all about the NATting and the firewalling, etc. It's the
> > > > > easiest way to 'configure' the webserver.
> > > >
> > > > Again were it me wanting to do this I would probably knock up a small
> > > > Django app with a FileField and ask them to use that but I have Django
> > > > set up and working already. Otherwise I would go with Matthews idea
> > > > of a php file upload script and put htaccess authentication in front
> > > > of it.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter Ellis <peter.ellis at finalhaven.org>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:04:33 +0100
> > > From: Matthew Phillips <phillips321 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Back track 5
> > > To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <CAO1ouJ85Xo=+
> > eDotc-JGe0h7jVrqo4uQ58wgXds6M0DAnwYv-A at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I do have a copy but it's on my 4Gb drive. If you don't have a 4gb usb
> > stick
> > > i'm happy to install it for you using my 4gb drive. (4gb drive can be
> > picked
> > > up from tesco for ?1-2 and then use unetbootin to create the bootable
> > drive)
> > >
> > > I would recommend installing BT5-Gnome-32bit on it, beware though,
> > there's
> > > absolutely shed loads missing. Netsed for exmaple is missing and it
> > doesn't
> > > even have a graphical calculator installed.
> > >
> > > And here's my shameless plug: download and run my script, it's written
> > > specifically for BT5 Gnome 32bit as it's what i use daily. What it
> > basically
> > > does is install many of the missing tools and programs. You can
> > > disable/enable what you want easily using the user interface. Info about
> > it
> > > can be found here: https://www.phillips321.co.uk/bt5-fixit-sh/
> > > And if you wish to get the latest copy via svn then a simple `*svn
> > checkout
> > > http://bt5-fixit.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ bt5-fixit` *will do the
> > trick.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps
> > >
> > > Matt Phillips
> > >
> > >
> > > On 26 July 2011 13:55, matt robbins <mrrobbins1 at live.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody have a copy of back track 5 or any decent security distro
> > on
> > > > usb so i can install it onto my notebook?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Matt R
> > > >
> > > > > From: gloucs-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > > Subject: gloucs Digest, Vol 347, Issue 2
> > > > > To: gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > > Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:00:03 +0000
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> > > > > 1. Re: Website upload (Peter Ellis)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:55:41 +0100
> > > > > From: Peter Ellis <peter.ellis at finalhaven.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Website upload
> > > > > To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > > <
> > > > CAAq0GsP2_miBKK-cuNYorw1jkSa3PpnRaoJMfoQpzsLSNkqt_A at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >
> > > > > On 18 July 2011 22:07, Glyn Davies <glynd at walmore.com> wrote:
> > > > > > So, I have a webserver on my SLUG (lighthttpd) and it would seem
> > > > > > simple to have a little page which allowed the Aussies to upload a
> > zip
> > > > > > of the photos to the SLUG.
> > > > >
> > > > > Were it me I would tell them to download dropbox and use the link
> > > > > sharing capabilities it provides (See
> > https://www.dropbox.com/help/16
> > > > > for the full details).
> > > > >
> > > > > > Where do I start to achieve this (in the simplest, quickest way)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.S. I know all about the NATting and the firewalling, etc. It's
> > the
> > > > > > easiest way to 'configure' the webserver.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again were it me wanting to do this I would probably knock up a small
> > > > > Django app with a FileField and ask them to use that but I have
> > Django
> > > > > set up and working already. Otherwise I would go with Matthews idea
> > > > > of a php file upload script and put htaccess authentication in front
> > > > > of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Peter Ellis <peter.ellis at finalhaven.org>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:44:44 +0100
> > > From: Sam Tuke <samtuke at fsfe.org>
> > > Subject: [Gloucs] Hunt down ads for non-Free PDF readers on 13th
> > > August
> > > To: Sam Tuke <samtuke at fsfe.org>
> > > Message-ID: <4E2EA8AC.6030709 at fsfe.org>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > >
> > > The Free Software Foundation Europe's successful PDF Readers campaign
> > > comes to Manchester next month for a one day sprint at MadLab
> > > hackerspace on the 13th of August, 15.00-17.30. Cakes and pizza provided!
> > >
> > > *What:*
> > >
> > > We'll search out proprietary PDF reader adverts on UK Government funded
> > > websites, and contact the institutions by letter and email, requesting
> > > that they remove them.
> > >
> > > Currently there are only 41 reports of such adverts in the UK, only
> > > three of which have already been resolved by the advert being removed.
> > > Many more adverts on UK Government websites still exist however, and on
> > > 13th August we'll find them, and aim to get as many of them removed as
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > *Why:*
> > >
> > > Publicly funded institutions routinely advertise proprietary PDF reader
> > > applications on their websites, often stating that a particular vendor's
> > > product is "required" for completing basic civic tasks like paying tax
> > > or registering a vehicle.
> > >
> > > Yet Free Software PDF Readers exist for all major operating systems,
> > > which can be used to perform the same tasks without sacrificing the
> > > freedom of their users.
> > >
> > > Many institutions carry proprietary software adverts simply out of
> > > ignorance, not realising that there are alternatives which protect
> > > citizens' freedom. By contacting them we will be making them aware of
> > > the existence of Free Software alternatives, and encouraging them to
> > > think about the benefits of Free Software in general.
> > >
> > > *Can it work?:*
> > >
> > > Throughout Europe, Free Software advocates have already reported more
> > > than 2,000 adverts, and successfully removed nearly 500 of them. Many of
> > > the success stories involved high profile websites, such as the Belgian
> > > Prime Minister, The Mayor of London, and the Bank of Italy. Several
> > > adverts have been replaced with links to Free Software PDF Readers on
> > > the pdfreaders.org website.
> > >
> > > *Real progress has been made, now its time to make an impact in the UK!*
> > >
> > > *Links:*
> > >
> > > MadLad event page:
> > > http://madlab.org.uk/content/stamp-out-the-ads-free-software-pdf-reader-
> > > sprint/
> > >
> > > Campaign homepage:
> > > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders
> > >
> > > Report an advert from a UK website:
> > > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/bug-report-uk.en.html
> > >
> > > List of UK adverts already reported:
> > > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/buglist.en.html#GB
> > >
> > > Website about Free Software PDF Readers:
> > > http://pdfreaders.org/
> > >
> > > See you there!
> > >
> > > Sam.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sam Tuke
> > > British Team Coordinator
> > > Free Software Foundation Europe
> > > IM : samtuke at jabber.fsfe.org
> > > Latest UK Free Software news: uk.fsfe.org
> > > Is freedom important to you? Join the fellowship.fsfe.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:43:23 +0100
> > > From: Paul Broadhead <lug at twinmoons.org.uk>
> > > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Hunt down ads for non-Free PDF readers on 13th
> > > August
> > > To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID: <20110726194323.49e00532.lug at twinmoons.org.uk>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> > >
> > > Sam Tuke wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Free Software Foundation Europe's successful PDF Readers campaign
> > > > comes to Manchester next month for a one day sprint at MadLab
> > > > hackerspace on the 13th of August, 15.00-17.30. Cakes and pizza
> > > > provided!....
> > >
> > > This message was blocked from being published by our policy of not
> > > allowing unregistered users to post to the list. I deliberately
> > > approved it which I hope was OK. The main reason to follow this up is
> > > to note that the poster is not subscribed and so will not see any
> > > responses posted back to the list.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:13:26 +0100 (BST)
> > > From: GEOFF BAGLEY <geoff.bagley at btinternet.com>
> > > Subject: [Gloucs] Hypervisors.
> > > To: gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <1311761606.50152.YahooMailClassic at web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > I am tempted to try out one of the available hypervisors to enable me to
> > try out other virtual operating systems.
> > >
> > > My machine is 64 bit.
> > >
> > > Would there be a problem with 32 bit guest operating systems?
> > > These are the most plentiful !
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > Geoff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:24:05 +0100
> > > From: Tom Llewelyn <tom at llewelyn.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Hypervisors.
> > > To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <CAGvSJXJmT+Noqr5BUEGZymzA--maemaTyT+-=
> > FBtxZeey-Zijg at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > Hi Geoff
> > >
> > > What hypervisor/host OS are you looking at?
> > >
> > > KVM and Xen on Linux hosts can both support 32-bit guests on a 64-bit
> > host.
> > > I believe VMWare and Virtualbox can do this to but have never tried with
> > > either.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 27 July 2011 11:13, GEOFF BAGLEY <geoff.bagley at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am tempted to try out one of the available hypervisors to enable me
> > to
> > > > try out other virtual operating systems.
> > > >
> > > > My machine is 64 bit.
> > > >
> > > > Would there be a problem with 32 bit guest operating systems?
> > > > These are the most plentiful !
> > > >
> > > > Best regards.
> > > >
> > > > Geoff
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:49:24 +0100
> > > From: Matthew Phillips <phillips321 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Gloucs] Hypervisors.
> > > To: Gloucestershire LUG <gloucs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <CAO1ouJ-W3Nh39oN0bT=iksTk49=QxEoghWToY=g5COskW=
> > huPg at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > vmware/virtual box will be the easiest route. most people now package in
> > > vmware for deployment so it'll potentially help you better in the
> > industry.
> > >
> > > It's also much easier to learn.
> > >
> > > Virtual box is free but doesn't have as many of the features as vmware.
> > > virtualbox is also a bugger to package virtual machines as it stores the
> > > config and the config separate.
> > >
> > > My vote would be
> > >
> > > 1. vmware
> > > 2. virtualbox
> > > 3. xen
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > On 27 July 2011 11:24, Tom Llewelyn <tom at llewelyn.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Geoff
> > > >
> > > > What hypervisor/host OS are you looking at?
> > > >
> > > > KVM and Xen on Linux hosts can both support 32-bit guests on a 64-bit
> > host.
> > > > I believe VMWare and Virtualbox can do this to but have never tried
> > with
> > > > either.
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > On 27 July 2011 11:13, GEOFF BAGLEY <geoff.bagley at btinternet.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am tempted to try out one of the available hypervisors to enable me
> > to
> > > > > try out other virtual operating systems.
> > > > >
> > > > > My machine is 64 bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would there be a problem with 32 bit guest operating systems?
> > > > > These are the most plentiful !
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Geoff
> > > > >
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