[Klug-general] Shiny New Laptop

[Karl Lattimer]

> People seem to misunderstand Gentoo and the compiling process, only
> processors that are faulty would have any problem with the
> compilations, processor's designs have to complete stress tests before
> being made and leaving the factory which is far in excess of any
> stress made with everyday compilation. 

agreed, but on laptops with bad heat management, the 24hour burnin done
by chip producers isn't going to help if for example you have a Dell
latitude (the one responsible for penile third degree burns on one
professor), you go away amusing yourself come back, with a small fire
kindling where your laptop was.

BTW: I don't misunderstand, I understand it perfectly, I just can't see
the logic.

> Gentoo is about choice, choosing how you want your system to be built
> and how you want it to work and as such it is only for the enthusiast
> and professional. If you like tinkering about with your system and
> learning how everything works then it is great but for those who dont
> it is not worth the trouble. 

Thank you! it is therefore hackish! 

> If you like everything to "just Work"(tm) then either use Windows or
> Mandriva. 

Ouch, please don't say that out loud.

> On the other hand gentoo and it's "hardened" project is used
> extensively for mission critical servers because of the ability to
> streamline it's deployment to suit any job. 

I don't agree that its ideal for this situation, I can imagine there 
being many issues surrounding it, every user of gentoo I know has had 
some horror stories related to it, which haven't happened to me.

I don't think its hardened at all, i think its malleable, pliable, and
flexible. I see its reasoning, but seriously, I don't have that time on
my hands. You can't be both flexible and hardened, it simply doesn't
work, hardening of software or operating environment is a process of
reducing the system to a set of lowest common denominators where
something can go wrong, therefore reducing risk, stabalising by reducing
complexity and making it easy to debug. I don't disagree that you can
harden gentoo, but i don't think its hardened. CentOS, wbel, rhel are
hardened, aswell as suse enterprise etc... these are what I call
hardened environments as a company has put time effort and swathes of
cash at making them that way, with some of the best OS developers in the
world.

K,