[Klug-general] Shiny New Laptop

[George Prowse]

On 21/04/06, Karl Lattimer <karl at nncc.info> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 10:12 +0000, George Prowse wrote:
> > On 21/04/06, Karl Lattimer <karl at nncc.info> wrote:
> >         You really are that bothered about what I've said?
> >
> >         LMFAO
> >
> > The point was to show that people who dont understand gentoo never
> > generally get the idea of it.
> >
>
> Whilst attempting to make a personal slur against me.


I've met you, you're a nice person and i'm not making a personal slur
against you. That isn't going to stop me from saying you are wrong though.


Believe me, I understand it, I even use it in specific places I get the
> idea, but I don't fathom why someone would run a production system on
> it. There is too much which can go wrong with it, which is why it hovers
> around the bottom of the distribution charts;
>
> http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major


Gentoo is only ideal when you are building a server with a specific
application or when the need to minimise the installed applications is
paramount. If there is no need to worry about such things then dont use it.

If you make chicken soup you don't start with a frog...


Most linux users I know refuse to put the time and effort into it, and
> some of them have done LFS (like myself) whilst learning the inner
> workings of the OS.


Most users (present company accepted) dont have the need or the knowlege to
use it. When they feel the need they will undoubtedly try it to see what all
the fuss is about. For a first time linux it is a bit much as well.
Personally i loved tinkering with it because i knew that if something had
gone wrong then the fault was mine and was easy to trace rather than my time
with fedora which when things break you have no clue how, why or when...

If for instance you have an issue with LDAP in a production environment,
> where some badly compiled code is causing corruption in your tree then
> you have a major issue. Would you have that problem with redhat EL, suse
> ES? No!


If the code was compiled badly originally then yes. Anyway, the code would
not be compiled badly by someone who knew what they are doing and people who
dont know what they are doing don't tend to use gentoo


The simple example to take is that to my knowledge not one single
> mission critical colo server runs on gentoo, I use two colo servers
> which run on FC2.


Anyone who uses Fedora for anything mission critical needs their head
examining. Why use a testbed for anything mission critical? Duhhhhhhh.


I reiterate that I understand its uses, I see reasoning for it, but I
> don't see the logic in using it as a server OS, or a desktop OS. Its
> more of a tinkering device.


You dont see the logic of using it as a desktop but you see it as a
tinkering device... So you *do* see the logic then? lol

There have been numerous occasions where we have told you that Gentoo is the
ideal distro in that situation: micro server, pbx, mail server, basically
anything uncluttered. What if you want certain packages to only work with
certain libraries? What about when you need a hardened toolchain?

Most people could reel off plenty of uses where Gentoo would be the ideal
distro in a given situation.
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