[Klug-general] Re: Mark Shuttleworth interview

Alex Layfield alex at alexlayfield.force9.co.uk
Sun Aug 13 13:03:16 BST 2006

Alan @ COMM-TECH wrote:
> Publishing media in a proprietary format is a bit like restricting 
> sales thereof to the first-class cabin, only those who can afford to 
> be there, have blagged a ticket, or bribed a steward, can only get 
> access to it.
> The fact that its is hackable to get xine working on wmv is not 
> relevant here. We have sold dozens of computers running Linux this 
> year, and I can be sure that only a few of those users are at this 
> point confident enough to take a screwdriver to their mozilla setup..
> All you KLuggers can *afford* to use Windows, right?  ;)  ...And did 
> you pay 99 quid at the Online XPee shoppe, or did you perhaps buy your 
> copy legit and shrinkwrapped from PCWorld? Did it come bundled with 
> your 699 quid PC? My point is that many many folk around the world are 
> being criminalised by the inability to afford Windows software. 
> Publishers with a public service remit like channel should not 
> participate in that.
> I dont think that its occurred to the programmers at channel 4 to 
> publish media in any other format than what is handed to them (they 
> are not the BBC remember). They need to be encouraged to put pressure 
> on their own organisation to do so and theres a "Have Your Say" bit 
> where we might be able to contribute your comments about open 
> standards, software being affordable to all etc. Who knows, maybe if 
> enough of us voice the problem someone there will try to address the 
> issue
> Alan
> ======================================
> Colin_The_Technician wrote:
>> Oh my god, I can't believe you guys can't see the good in this story
>> and focus on bashing CH4 because they don't cater for the small
>> percentage of Linux users.  Face facts guys over 90% of the world uses
>> Windows so it isn't surprising that CH4 has a Windows centric media
>> delivery method, like most of the internet.
>> I would have hoped people would have focused on the fact that Linux
>> and Ubuntu were mentioned on mainstream media. Ok more4 probably ain't
>> mainstream, but it is good it is getting mentioned. And just hopefully
>> one of those Windows users watching online will think about using
>> Linux and Ubuntu and maybe even look for a local lug.
>> Lets hope they aren't put off by the radical Linux users and comments.
>> I am not having a go at you guys but the Linux community on the
>> whole.
>> I like and use Windows, I also like Linux too.
>> On 8/10/06, Alan Pope <alan at popey.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:52:21AM +0100, Peter Childs wrote:
>>> > On 09/08/06, Colin_The_Technician <binarysignal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >A very short but interesting news item More4 news did on Mark
>>> > >Shuttleworth and Ubuntu.
>>> > >http://www.channel4.com/more4/news/news-opinion-feature.jsp?id=350
>>> > >
>>> > >Thought KLUG members would find this interesting if they haven't
>>> > >already seen it.
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > Oh dear seams we need windows to watch that... Groan
>>> >
>>> yeah, it won't even play nice in firefox or ie under wine :(
>>> Channel 4 can be such dumbasses sometimes. When The IT Crowd first 
>>> aired
>>> they made it available for download in a nice easy to view video, 
>>> then as
>>> soon as it became popular they made sure it was only viewable on crappy
>>> proprietary operating systems.
>>> Short sighted fools.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Al.
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Just as a funny add-on...

It wouldn't play on a friend of mine's 2k box... :)

Can't be bothered to fix his wm/ie setup tho'... he refuses open e.g. 
mozilla options etc... believing proprietry means stability & cleanliness...

We've got to beat this psychological brick wall that consumers have 

I tried getting in touch with Kent Messenger Group about writing an 
small? article on the fact that computers need not be so expensive by 
using open source... but they said it was not in their interest or that 
of their readers and because it was not community-based? (Their remit is 
to cover all community-based issues)...

Was looking at a spam I got from a certain 'Online XPee shoppe' who are 
selling computers with linux or no system on... revolution's started... 

Funny thing is, if a certain OS were a quarter of the price, surely at 
least 4 times as many people (globally) would legalise it...? Does that 
work economically? Don;t think I'll ever be a fat cat... :-$


Fight capitalism with capitalism, boycott!

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