[Klug-general] Re: You can't dis apple

[J D Freeman]

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On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 02:29:39PM +0000, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > If you want to CHOOSE to use those, you can. Debian don't provide it
> > tho. Its not stallman humping. He is long past, and generally not one I
> > ahve an awful lot of time for. However, Open source and the freedoms it
> > entails, are, IMHO, incredibly important. Sorry. Thats my oppinion.
> > 
> > You have a different one, I think you are wrong, but I will defend to my
> > death your right to say it.
> 
> I didn't say freedom isn't important I said that free as in freedom
> doesn't mean that you exclude choice, as that detracts from the freedom.
> If you don't understand this stuff then just stop thinking about it.
> Freedom is complex when it comes to open source software. Stand by your
> laurels on freedom, and one day you'll get severely burned. 

Yes, you are right, you can Choose something else. Don't like debian?
great, buy a mac. We really don't care. If you feel debian is the one to
use for you, great, come on in. We wont force you to do anything. Its
choice. Just cos debian doesn't include packages, doesn't mean they
aren't available, and doesn't mean you can't choose to install them
later, or even choose to shun debian. Its your choice. I use debian cos
I think its the best out there for my needs and my purposes. If someone
else uses it, great, if not, I don't really care, their choice.

Now, why don't we leave this matter before it gets into a slagging
match. I will never convert you from having your head stuck in a red hat
paper bag. I will not sacrifice my freedoms, and will continue to use
debian.

Thus we could debate for ever and not get anywhere. SO...

lets draw a line under all this, and move onto discussing something
else. Like, say, coffee.

J
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