[Klug-general] Debian 4.0 released
allen at allenjb.me.uk
Tue Apr 10 13:53:03 BST 2007
Karl Latimer wrote:
> My views on gentoo go something like this;
> If I wanted a highly optimised one time OS built for doing a specific
> job, as fast as the hardware would allow, a completely trimmed down OS
> which doesn't require all and sundry deps for doing x and y which don't
> interest me, and I need to hack hard on it to fit it into a tight little
> box, small storage, little hardware but the need to get the max out of
> what I've got... I'd choose gentoo. Gentoo isn't even good for learning
> linux internals, AFAIK gentoo excludes some of the Linuxy features in
> favor of older tried and tested methods, eg udev, maybe they do use it
> now, and also sysfs, maybe they use that too. Sure you learn about
> optimised builds, but not necessarily Linux...
Gentoo has used udev for years - atleast ever since I started using it,
which was some time back in 2005 and probably well before then. It has
also continued to provide devfs for those still using 2.4 based setups
(although I think recent releases of certain things like glibc have
meant it's moving away from this).
I don't get your emphasis on optimised builds here. Most users set up
their CFLAGS and other related items according to the bog standard setup
(usually along the lines of "-march=<whatever> -O2", perhaps with a
"-pipe" in there too) and never touch them again.
While Gentoo can be used for ricing (using insance CFLAGS, CHOST,
LDFLAGS setups in a silly attempt to get that extra 0.00000000000001%
out of your machine), this is only a very small portion of the community
and is generally actively discouraged by the Gentoo developers.
As I pointed out in my other post, if a user is looking for a purely
desktop distro to install on their office machine and just wants to run
linux, then yes I'd advise a distro such as Ubuntu. However, for users
who want to learn about linux, how it works and how to administrate it,
I believe Gentoo is an excellent distro.
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