[Klug-general] Debian 4.0 released

George Prowse cokehabit at gmail.com
Tue Apr 10 14:14:17 BST 2007


Allen Brooker wrote:
> Karl Latimer wrote:
>> My views on gentoo go something like this;
>>
>> If I wanted a highly optimised one time OS built for doing a specific
>> job, as fast as the hardware would allow, a completely trimmed down OS
>> which doesn't require all and sundry deps for doing x and y which don't
>> interest me, and I need to hack hard on it to fit it into a tight little
>> box, small storage, little hardware but the need to get the max out of
>> what I've got... I'd choose gentoo. Gentoo isn't even good for learning
>> linux internals, AFAIK gentoo excludes some of the Linuxy features in
>> favor of older tried and tested methods, eg udev, maybe they do use it
>> now, and also sysfs, maybe they use that too. Sure you learn about
>> optimised builds, but not necessarily Linux...
>
> I don't get your emphasis on optimised builds here. Most users set up 
> their CFLAGS and other related items according to the bog standard 
> setup (usually along the lines of "-march=<whatever> -O2", perhaps 
> with a "-pipe" in there too) and never touch them again.
>
> While Gentoo can be used for ricing (using insance CFLAGS, CHOST, 
> LDFLAGS setups in a silly attempt to get that extra 0.00000000000001% 
> out of your machine), this is only a very small portion of the 
> community and is generally actively discouraged by the Gentoo developers.
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -mfpmath=sse -msse3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer 
-ggdb"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"

I am a long experienced Gentoo user and this is a testing/development 
box though, also none of those are ricing flags ;)

George



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