[Klug-general] The Android Developer Challenge will award $10 million to developers who build great apps for Android

[George Prowse]

Karl Lattimer wrote:
>>> LOL, don't be stupid, the iphone is the best bloody product out there,
>>> it has a software stack that kicks the arse of android (core image, core
>>> audio, core animation, quartz extreme, quartz compositor, among many
>>> other apple APIs). The user interface has been 2 1/2 years in
>>> development and shows how much attention to detail apple have paid, soon
>>> it'll get 3G, GPS and MMS support and then it'll be mainstream in
>>> europe. 
>>>
>>> iPhone is good, there is no denying it, I haven't seen any valid
>>> criticism which isn't already on a time table for redress. The open
>>> source world can't produce something like this, especially not in the
>>> time frame allowed. I mean FCS we're still trying to get a single
>>> direction and combined effort behind open compositing and yet there are
>>> no HIG guidelines for compositing yet, this is now 2 years old! Apple
>>> did this 8 years ago!
>> Pity the phone itself is shit and it comes with a crap camera... But who 
>> wants that, eh?
> 
> So it has a 2mpix camera? So what, its not _THAT_ bad, in fact for a
> 2mpix it does better than my old motorola, which really did have a shit
> camera which was supposed to be the same quality. The parts are better
> quality than motorola.

For a company on prides itself on trying to do things one better they 
sure fouled up on that one...
> 
> So what exactly about the phone is shit, after using one the audio
> clarity beats any phone I've used incoming and outgoing, and because it
> has a full unix operating system it can easily multitask emailing and
> phoning at the same time, unlike S60 or any other phone OS for that
> matter.

For a start no 3G, the camera the fact that it uses EDGE, in fact the 
only good thing about it is the OS
> 
>>  From what I can tell it does the typical Apple bit and that is "doesn't 
>> work as good as it looks".
> 
>>From my experience all apple products work as good as they look, I have
> two macs and an ipod (how many apple products do you own?), I'm happy
> with all of them, well except the HDD in my ipod died after its 500th or
> so drop.

I have an ipod, powerbook G3 and I just got rid of 3 old-world macs.
> 
>>> I wouldn't criticise this breakthrough product until you can at least
>>> write some cool bling in cairo or clutter and realise that the effort is
>>> far beyond what anyone else can produce right now, even google.
>>>
>> I can criticise it all I want, my phone is far better than the iPhone, I 
>> can even plug it into the computer and my box gets a 512mb broadband 
>> connection through it.
> 
> No you can't really criticise something by citing yet another persons
> work as better... Especially as no UI in the world compares to iPhone.
> 
> And for the record, the maximum theoretical (that's a key word) limit of
> HSDPA is 384Mbit/s not mb (milli bytes?) and for those so blissfully
> unaware a bit is 1/8th of a byte.
> 
> Moreover, most people can only get around 280Mbit/s out of HSDPA and the
> coverage in maidstone from either o2 or orange is non
> existent...pointless
> 
> George, I think its time for you to stop having a go at a product
> because you can't afford it and judge it on its merit, a breakthrough UI
> on a breakthrough device. I won't buy one until it gets to a certain
> level of feature completeness but I still recognise the merits of it.
> 
> Oh for the record, apple inventions that are not all show and no action;
>  * The personal computer
>  * The mouse
>  * The portable hdd based mp3 player
> 
> These weren't just innovations, they were paradigm shifters. iPhone is
> yet another one.
> 
> K,
> 
Heh, if I want one i'll just go and buy one but I couldn't put up with 
all the shitty features just for it looking nice - only a shallow person 
would do that :p

G