[Klug-general] So, this new iPhone

[Karl Lattimer]

> P.S. We all know Haagen Dazs Pralines and Cream is the best ice- 
> cream so there is no point arguing

There`s a very telling moment in the new film, "Thank You for  
Smoking," where tobacco lobbyist Nick Naylor asks his son Joey (the  
young Cameron Bright, excellently balancing innocence and  
precociousness) to prove to him, a vanilla ice cream fan, that  
chocolate ice cream is the best ice cream in the world.

Joey eagerly describes all the qualities that make chocolate so good,  
but he still loses the argument. Why? Not because the question is a  
wholly subjective one. Nick wins without ever mentioning his  
preference for vanilla. Instead, he merely states that chocolate  
simply isn`t for him, and Joey learns a valuable lesson: you don`t  
always have to prove you`re right, just that the other person is wrong.


Quoted from a review of said movie

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I don't get into willy waving fights just to be clear, you stated  
that there was no point in the iPhone, when in fact I stated the  
reasons why its good, and it will be a success and why it will bring  
about a paradigm change. Just because you're a fan of chocolate ice  
cream, doesn't mean we all are. You make initial posts in a  
categorical sense, rue those who argue, basically like a teacher  
dictating the subject and telling kids their wrong if they have their  
own opinions, in fact almost every technology post of yours has taken  
this attitude, I grew up with teachers like that, didn't like them,  
didn't respect them and couldn't because they were reading off a set  
of cards that was already irrelevant, same as you are.

if you look back at your initial post, it seems you've already made  
assumptions, and shouted it down, my first post tried to convince you  
that creating a stance at such an early stage against it was probably  
a bad idea given the fact that it is pretty damn good.

A simple truth of the world is this, and it is prophetic in a sense  
so don't try and argue, some really smart enlightened bloke came up  
with it.

"Beliefs are bad, people become so ingrained in their beliefs that  
they form hatreds, these hatreds can lead to war, it is far more  
appropriate to have ideas and ideals, as these can change to meet new  
challenges"

You put across your belief that apple aren't a worthwhile company and  
their new product isn't worthwhile and the status quo is fine, when  
they have achievements which out way your own, this is the sin of  
envy by the way, which is itself the single contributing emotion to  
willy waving competitions. That as far as I can tell makes you an  
initiator.

I just get pissed off with you because well, lets face it, I doubt  
apple were really stressed about nobbly fives when they sat down to  
re-invent the phone 2.5 years ago. To you it seems the world, you're  
short sighted, and will probably attack anything new if it comes from  
a company you don't believe in.

Solution: Don't believe in things, try, see, investigate, form  
opinions after you have the available facts.

I can easily tell that you never even watched the keynote  
presentation, you just made all the assumptions you could to bolster  
your point. Everyone I know who has seen the keynote, apple lovers  
and haters and just casual observers have sworn, opened their eyes  
wide with glee, and gasped in shock and awe at its wonderful design  
and feature set.

K,

PS: Its bad practice on email to attack every point in a message,  
you're such a fan of top posting, try and understand why people  
bottom post in the first place. RELEVANCY!