[Klug-general] (no subject)

[Colin McCarthy]

I think the reference is the Bible. Something about 'in the beginning there
was heaven and earth'.
I would like an oatmeal and rasin cookie please :-)


On 3/8/07, J D Freeman <klug at quixotic.org.uk> wrote:
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> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 12:17:46PM +0000, Dan Attwood wrote:
> > Ok shall we set the April talks to be one on IPTV by Colin for the
> > none technical and one on SHH by Mike for the technical?
> >
> > And while wer'e at it can somebody please explain to me why people
> > keep ing offering talks along the line of 'why XYZ is a load of
> > rubbish' or 'techniques and methods for killing end users' or 'why I
> > hate XYZ'?
> >
> > Surely the aim of any lug should be to help it's members learn new
> > things - remember the round table discussions we had in Dover? and
> > also remember the cross section of member we have.
> >
> > If people really want to dicuss things why i hate such and such
> > perhaps they should save it for the pub meets or maybe we should
> > arrange for some proper, structured debates. I person anally don't
> > want to have to sit and listen to someone troll for half an hour - i
> > have better ways to spend my time.
>
> Having heard Mike's talks on this subject in the past, I don't think
> there is any real negativity there, and such a talk can only be useful,
> IMHO. Whats more, with the recent(ish) posts on getting jobs and
> certification in IT, a talk from someone who has been doing this stuff
> professionally since the last century would only be useful to the
> membership.
>
> The other talk you are alluding to, I am guessing, is my "Why computer
> scientists should be shot", which is not a troll, and not a rant, but a
> talk designed to promote wider awareness about where we have come from
> as an industry, and where we are going. Any programmer worth their salt
> should have studied "Software Failure and risk" and thus should be able
> to learn from mistakes. A talk like this is important in that respect.
>
> This said, I will be changing the title of my talk in march to "In the
> Beginning was the command line." (cookie for the first person to spot
> the reference :p )
>
> J
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